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Post by monstrman on May 6, 2012 20:12:12 GMT -6
The town awoke, after a relatively uneventful night to find that their party was one person short! Softguitar was nowhere to be found. Try as they might, not one trace was found of her. Softguitar was your , 1. Kat T. Bard 2. Erniewan 3. NPR 4. Capcommaster 5. XXStone 6. MiracleFassad 7. JKilla 8. werdna0418 9. DogInjuries 10. kirawillwin 11. robbiecon 12. TML With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day ends Wednesday, May 10th at 9pm US Central. Dead Players: Monstrman. Overpowered Townie Who Knew Everything Ever. Town. Killed Day 1Softguitar. , . Killed night 1.
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Post by Coyote on May 6, 2012 20:59:47 GMT -6
Well... That's strange. Not much to go on exactly.
Anybody get any intel last night?
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Post by Coyote on May 6, 2012 21:12:16 GMT -6
Also, does disappeared necessarily mean dead? Could she be returning?
All I remember about softguitar is that she was suspicious of erniewan and werdna, and thought Kat, TML, and JKilla seemed like townies. Not sure if that's at all helpful, but we don't have much to go on. I'll need to go back and read Day 1.
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Post by softguitar on May 6, 2012 21:23:31 GMT -6
Janitored? Oh, well...
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Post by Erniewan on May 6, 2012 21:26:34 GMT -6
Nooooo, softguitar! I'll avenge you! First off, that yellow is hard to read, monstrman. I wanna start the day by asking some questions. Feel free to elaborate on other areas of the game too though: Kat T. Bard - Is what NPR said about not voting you in other games true? What players do you trust now? NPR - Are you still suspicious of JKilla and TML? If Kat took the shtick to the next level, why didn't you vote her then? Capcommaster - Ready to get off the fence and take a side on one of the many suspects? XXStone - Do you think NPR is Town? Why did you not want to lynch him if it was for actual reasons (not just joke voting)? MiracleFassad - Any reason why you haven't posted much? What do you think about werdna and JKilla? JKilla - Why did you list werdna's vote as a reason for voting him if you voted him first? werdna0418 - How many mafia games have you played on Facebook/chats? What kind of scum tells do you look for in those games? DogInjuries - What's so strange? Are you still suspicious of Kat? Anyone else? kirawillwin - How important do you think voting is? Is there a reason why you didn't vote on Day 1? robbiecon - Why do you think NPR and Kat are playing everyone? If so, why would one vote the other and not vice versa? TML - You're an experienced player. Who do you trust the most so far, and who is on your scum radar? Did you end up reading up about NPR?
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Post by Coyote on May 6, 2012 21:44:22 GMT -6
Strange in the sense that we learned nothing of her identity. I've been fairly confused at the Kat/NPR angle, but I'm leaning now towards NPR being the more suspicious one of the two. I'll wait until ernie's questions have been answered before I take a firmer stance.
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Post by Erniewan on May 6, 2012 21:55:55 GMT -6
Well, it's a typical Janitoring, but I guess you've been away long enough, it's become a normal mafia role in most games. I don't think we should wait for all the questions to be answered before continuing though, but I understand if some of the questions were some you are wondering as well.
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Post by kirawillwin on May 6, 2012 21:58:07 GMT -6
kirawillwin - How important do you think voting is? Is there a reason why you didn't vote on Day 1? I didn't vote day one because I wasn't really suspicious of anyone, voting is fine to put a little pressure on someone, but if constantly hop from one vote to the next, you become wishy washy, and suspicious in my eyes because then your just hoping on to whoever you think you could get lynched.
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Post by NPR on May 6, 2012 23:03:13 GMT -6
I'm not sure if I'm still suspicious of Jkilla and TML because something tells me that they might have had a tiny case of D1 shenanigans. I'm going to wait and see how they post today, since D1 is over.
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Post by JKilla on May 6, 2012 23:33:00 GMT -6
Soft Guitar JKilla - Why did you list werdna's vote as a reason for voting him if you voted him first? Because I was reading all the post in the first day which also included Missing Link's interview. And at points it seemed like he was being really defensive . So I thought I would put a vote in his direction for only pure reactions, I was also putting him as a SoS. After reading all of posts after mine, he was pushing more of a freak out. When he was trying to get lynch votes in my direction. So that could be in the indication of being Mafia or a third party. On to some other notes, I wonder what was the indication of Kat's unvote for when she orginally voted for NPR. When all she did was " unvote:" can you explain that to the crowd? Like I thought that it was supposed to be in the rules that you had to put a person's name down to cancel the unvote, before you put my name down. (Since you called me out for my edit post, i'm doing the same back to you).
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Post by NPR on May 7, 2012 0:03:20 GMT -6
3. to vote, bold and color the vote red vote:monstrman[/color] To unvote, do the same thing but blue unvote[/color] [/quote] It doesn't show that people have to put their name down when unvoting, not to mention that going unvote[/color] to remove a person's vote has been going on for a while. It looks like you're trying to bring attention to Kat. I don't think that you're trying to throw dirt on kat though, because this is an extremely trivial issue to bring up.
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Post by NPR on May 7, 2012 0:04:39 GMT -6
Just an FYI though, when someone brings up you editing your post, and you bring up their simply going unvote[/color] instead of going unvote: name[/color] just to call them out for calling you out, you sound like an ass.
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Post by JKilla on May 7, 2012 1:55:57 GMT -6
Yay, i'm in the asshole books. What else am I going to be called. Since i'm just getting dissed.
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Post by JKilla on May 7, 2012 1:58:08 GMT -6
@ NPR,
It wasn't my attention of being an ass, all I did was asking as a question.
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Post by Nyan Kat on May 7, 2012 10:57:41 GMT -6
re: Ernie- Well, you saw LOST Mafia. That started shortly before we got together so I'm not sure if you want to count that one or not. Since then we've played two games offsite. I think he mentioned the one where we did vote each other, but in the other one we were Masons and trying to not kill each other.
re: Jay- It's a nice gesture to do unvote: name but it's certainly not necessary ^^; And I unvoted because I didn't feel that anybody else was seeing what I was seeing and gave up. Now I have a question for you- Can you please explain your reasoning for voting werdna one more time?
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Post by Nyan Kat on May 7, 2012 11:01:26 GMT -6
EBWOP: Wait, junk. Never mind about the question. that's what I get for reading while distracted.
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Post by Nyan Kat on May 7, 2012 11:02:28 GMT -6
NPR, namecalling does not make you look more town.
Jay, I think I get it.
Holding my vote. sorry for triple posting.
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Post by JKilla on May 7, 2012 12:13:52 GMT -6
Kat, would you sill like me to answer your question?
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Post by Nyan Kat on May 7, 2012 12:14:10 GMT -6
No...I can't read >.> thank you though
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Post by Erniewan on May 7, 2012 17:56:15 GMT -6
I'm not sure if I'm still suspicious of Jkilla and TML because something tells me that they might have had a tiny case of D1 shenanigans. I'm going to wait and see how they post today, since D1 is over. I dunno, most of what those two said looked pretty serious to me. Assuming that they weren't shenanigans, what would you say then? I didn't vote day one because I wasn't really suspicious of anyone, voting is fine to put a little pressure on someone, but if constantly hop from one vote to the next, you become wishy washy, and suspicious in my eyes because then your just hoping on to whoever you think you could get lynched. I'd rather someone vote more than once than not at all. Waiting until you have suspicions might help keep yourself under the radar, but it doesn't help the rest of the players know where you stand.
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Post by werdna0418 on May 7, 2012 22:02:12 GMT -6
werdna0418 - How many mafia games have you played on Facebook/chats? What kind of scum tells do you look for in those games?
gosh how many not sure i played in lots of mafia games and played a lot on em... i look for bandwagons omgus votes defensiveness...contradictions votes to stray...lots of different things
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Post by The Missing Link on May 7, 2012 23:57:40 GMT -6
I'm going to start by replying to this really quickly before reading the rest of the topic in depth. TML - You're an experienced player. Who do you trust the most so far, and who is on your scum radar? Did you end up reading up about NPR? First, I did read up on NPR. I went back through the list of his posts on D1... and more or less I found a lot of nothing really. NPR posted 15 times on D1... and not many of them were all that substantive. I mean, while it is D1 and all (and so some of that is to be suspected), honestly I'm a little surprised by that considering NPR is fairly old hat at this too. The two biggest posts that had some meat to them were his vote for JKilla and the weird vibe he got from me after I asked a crap ton of questions. As for the latter, I don't know exactly what intentions I should be reading that with... if he was idly speculating about that or if it was a serious consideration, and so I really would like to know the answer to that. As far as the vote on JKilla, it really was the only point during the day (other than him adamantly not voting for Kat) where he took a definitive stand on an issue. I don't know if it's enough to put a vote on him yet, but I don't really have anything substantive to say he's Town quite yet. So far I've got a feeling of trust in Kat. She's been one of the more proactive ones so far this game, and there's a confidence in her actions that stands out. While it's no firm indication of anything, I tend to associate brazen confidence with Townie-like behavior, so I'm liable to think she's Town. I want to go back through some of the more active posters and see if I can find a second good candidate for Townieness as well. So if you'll pardon me, I'm going to read through D2 a little closer now.
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Post by The Missing Link on May 8, 2012 0:12:10 GMT -6
Nooooo, softguitar! I'll avenge you! Soft Guitar Another Mafia theory that I'm still in the process of testing out -- people who get all sadface that people died over the night are less likely Town. Even more odd is when no alignment gets revealed... and suddenly there's this implicit camaraderie there. Now granted, while the odds are good -- with just a single kill in the night -- that the victim is a de facto Townie, that's not entirely provable. Stranger things have happened in Mafia before.
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Post by The Missing Link on May 8, 2012 0:12:45 GMT -6
<Whoops. Forgot to merge my last post with this one. Oh well.> I wanna start the day by asking some questions. Feel free to elaborate on other areas of the game too though: Strike me curious, Ernie. I seem to think you like my technique. I think I know the answer to it, but I figure I'll ask anyway. Is this something you do particularly often? Did you like what happened yesterday? I didn't vote day one because I wasn't really suspicious of anyone, voting is fine to put a little pressure on someone, but if constantly hop from one vote to the next, you become wishy washy, and suspicious in my eyes because then your just hoping on to whoever you think you could get lynched. Honestly, I'd say not voting at all could be equally wishy washy, but to be honest, I'm personally less concerned by your lack of voting D1 and more concerned by your lack of posting. You posted twice on D1. Any particular reason?
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Post by Erniewan on May 8, 2012 7:10:28 GMT -6
Even more odd is when no alignment gets revealed... and suddenly there's this implicit camaraderie there. softguitar is my girlfriend though, so yeah, it's implicit, regardless of her role. Yup, it's a good way of getting the lurkers to say at least something. I had a few questions from the last day, and it helped to get them answered. I just really hate when people only answer the question and give no other discussion of their own. It's like "ok, I answered, I did my part." No, that is hardly enough if we are going to win this. Ask some questions of your own!
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Post by monstrman on May 8, 2012 12:22:00 GMT -6
No votes... day ends Friday because I'm nice and giving you an extension.
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Post by Nyan Kat on May 8, 2012 12:32:58 GMT -6
Hm...I've got a good feeling about Ernie. I want to have a good feeling about TML but he's just so hard to read and also Nintendo you made me sad >:[
I notice that NPR hasn't done anything since namecalling and trying to white-knight me ;>_>
I'm okay on kira for now. He's not usually very active but at least he's trying to explain his behavior.
Nobody else has really been active enough for me to have any read other than null...ugh.
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Post by Coyote on May 8, 2012 14:52:59 GMT -6
Kat, what's the difference in your mind between having a good feeling about Ernie but being unsure about TML, when they are using similar techniques? Ernie's tough to read, too.
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Post by Nyan Kat on May 8, 2012 15:02:12 GMT -6
I just know Ernie better. xD
Although to TML's credit he did the question thing first.
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Post by XX Stone on May 8, 2012 15:41:28 GMT -6
@erniewan: I feel like NPR is just bandwagoned for, I dunno, his gameplay style? It could be that the mafia just want him out of the way and are pushing for a lynch on him, but and early NPR lynch backfires way too many times for me to not be skeptical.
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