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Post by Nyan Kat on May 12, 2012 16:18:19 GMT -6
This is outguessing-the-mod territory but I could totally see monstrman using that mechanic...
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Post by kirawillwin on May 12, 2012 17:45:13 GMT -6
hey you guys sorry I havent been on, my computer is pretty screwed up right now, it should be fixed by the end of the weekend, see you guys then
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JKilla
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Post by JKilla on May 12, 2012 19:23:48 GMT -6
@erniewan
What more do you want, you got a role claim out of me. isn't that enough?
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Post by Erniewan on May 12, 2012 19:32:07 GMT -6
No, I'm just saying that quoting a PM is against the rules, penalty is mod-killing. I was just asking if you quoted it word for word or not.
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Post by Nyan Kat on May 12, 2012 19:33:22 GMT -6
Which is why he's now calling for NPR's blood and not yours.........and also why I unvoted you too.......
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The Missing Link
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Post by The Missing Link on May 12, 2012 20:42:00 GMT -6
To be quite frank, it looks exactly like the formatting of my role description. Which makes me think it is a copy/paste. >_<
And if that's the case, then I don't think JKilla is lying... but it also means that Monstrman is going to be adjudicating this. >_<
Unvote: JKilla
As for that, I really want to see Monstrman's call before going too much further as a result.
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Post by Erniewan on May 12, 2012 20:51:56 GMT -6
I don't see why we need to wait for monstrman to kill him off though, TML, we can move on without confirming it. Or do you think he might have just been faking it?
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Post by monstrman on May 12, 2012 21:20:01 GMT -6
The town turns to JKilla "We know you're working with the master. Just admit it!"
He tries to convince them otherwise, but the pressure becomes too much... soon his memories of the timestream flood his brain. His human body cannot handle it... and he falls to the ground, dead.
Jkilla was Donna Noble, Amnestic Doctor. Town.[/color]
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Post by Erniewan on May 12, 2012 21:29:31 GMT -6
Well, I know it seems obvious, but.. FoS: TML, Dog Injuries, Kat T. Bard, NPR, Capcommaster Never really did like this wagon. If you haven't voted yet, I suggest you look over the reasons for these votes and place a vote down before the end of the Day. I'd think lynching NPR would be the most informational at this point, but if you have an argument for someone else, let's hear it.
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Post by The Missing Link on May 12, 2012 21:32:24 GMT -6
I don't see why we need to wait for monstrman to kill him off though, TML, we can move on without confirming it. Or do you think he might have just been faking it? I was more thinking Monstrman might also end the day with that. Because no, I don't think anyone who's going to post their role claim in direct violation of the rules would make up their own roleclaim in addition. That was the clarification I was wanting to see. So... >_< With that said, where do we go from here? So clearly JKilla was a Townie. Nuts to that. >_< I'm still... not entirely sure I see what everyone is up and arms about with NPR. Kat's point about XX Stone does sit a little uneasily on me though. To be unabashedly honest, I was more or less ready to have JKilla lynched by the day's end with the sole exception to that being if she could substantiate a role claim that was worth something decent. Now... I'm more torn at what to do.
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Post by monstrman on May 12, 2012 23:10:03 GMT -6
This activity is sad. Just saying.
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Post by Nyan Kat on May 12, 2012 23:13:40 GMT -6
Kat's point about XX Stone does sit a little uneasily on me though. As in, it makes you uneasy towards me or towards him? Ernie, what all do you think we could gain from an NPR lynch today?
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Post by werdna0418 on May 12, 2012 23:43:41 GMT -6
omg guys i work at a restaurant and with mothers day i have been busy and forgot about this till tonight let me reread
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Post by capcommaster on May 12, 2012 23:47:56 GMT -6
Oh wow....well im a bit confused where to go from here. Like I said i really dont believe NPR and Kats shenanigans make either one of them mafia. I mean its slightly suspicious but its more something that doesnt really involve this game so i dont completely trust the idea that one of them is mafia. I guess looking at Stone would be a good idea considering some things but for now I really do think that both NPR and Kat are town.
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Post by werdna0418 on May 12, 2012 23:48:15 GMT -6
ok well i was suspicous of Jkilla and that was my key fos just for his personal attacks at me....now im kinda confused.....
Kat is my question right now can u explain your supsicions of NPR to me...
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Post by Nyan Kat on May 13, 2012 0:53:52 GMT -6
Capcom, why do you think NPR is town? In short: he has painted me in a bad light without any real commitment to my lynch. He does a similar thing with TML in one post which you can see here. I have found other things, and I'm in the process of building a more complete case. I think that XX Stone is more likely to be mafia at this point, again, for soft defense and also having no suspicions...At this point, we're two players down and at least one of them is town, so we need to weigh our advantages and disadvantages. Do we lynch someone who gives us more information down the road but the accuracy has a slightly larger margin of error, or do we lynch somebody with a smaller margin of error but whose flip leaves less reads? (of course, this is all subjective and based on my own opinions and reads but still!) tl;dr I'm torn between NPR lynch and XX lynch
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Post by Nyan Kat on May 13, 2012 0:55:02 GMT -6
EBWOP Second paragraph ("In short") is directed at werdna and the bottom (from "ITT:..." down) is my general musings.
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Post by NPR on May 13, 2012 10:38:45 GMT -6
Ugh, I work all day yesterday, and this is what I see? I'mma read up some more, since Jkilla was my only suspect.
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Post by Erniewan on May 13, 2012 10:50:06 GMT -6
I don't see how anyone can have only one suspect... maybe a top suspect, but seems kinda scummy that you didn't have a contingency plan (if x is not mafia, then perhaps y is). But at least you're gonna read some more.
Right now I'd be willing to vote any of the people on JK's wagon, except maybe Kat. I tend to agree with her concerning XX Stone though, he's been very on the fence and his meta defense of NPR seems like an attempt to escape future blame.
As for an NPR lynch, well, he's the only one besides JKilla who everyone has some sort of opinion about. The fact that he doesn't have suspicions now makes me think that he is trying to avoid giving out any info, but I could be wrong.
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Post by Nyan Kat on May 13, 2012 11:54:41 GMT -6
bluh, I'll see what he says after reading up.
I'll be watching. With my eyes.
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Post by Coyote on May 13, 2012 12:43:53 GMT -6
Well, my biggest suspicion after JKilla was werdna. I figured one or both of them were scum based on their antics. I've been on the fence about NPR, but he's beginning to look scummy. I do find Kat more trustworthy than I did on Day 1, so I'm inclined at this point to agree with her and erniewan against NPR.
vote: NPR
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Post by NPR on May 13, 2012 12:58:41 GMT -6
I don't see how anyone can have only one suspect... maybe a top suspect, but seems kinda scummy that you didn't have a contingency plan (if x is not mafia, then perhaps y is). But at least you're gonna read some more. Actually, this can go both ways. It can go for townies, as you stated, and it can go for mafiats as well (I'm going to try and lynch X, if not him, then perhaps Y) Let me try to get the jist of all this. Ok guys, I have some very important intel. Kat is mafia. That is all. I post this in D1, and Kat quickly votes for me. Several people oddly take me seriously, like there's a 0% chance of that post being D1 shenanigans, which it obviously is. I didn't say it was a hunch, I said it was intel. Nobody has ANY intel at the beginning of D1, except for hintmen, which are not in this game. I don't vote for Kat simply for D1 shenanigans, and now, I'm a few votes short of a lynch. So we're basically lynching someone for a few reasons, all of which stemed from D1 sillyness. My biggest suspect is Erniewan, who has basically been calling for my blood this entire time. Vote: Erniewan
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Post by Erniewan on May 13, 2012 13:06:01 GMT -6
Ok, so you're voting me for "calling for your blood", if that's not OMGUS, then I don't know what is.
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Post by NPR on May 13, 2012 13:34:09 GMT -6
It's not just that you're calling my blood, it's that you're calling for my blood over D1 shenanigans, which is extremely petty.
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Post by Nyan Kat on May 13, 2012 13:36:25 GMT -6
It's not that we want your blood over shenanigans, we want your blood over your reaction to them.
vote: NPR[/color]
I swear to god if you claim protector again...
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Post by XX Stone on May 13, 2012 14:01:00 GMT -6
I'm going to request a replacement. I haven't been paying the attention that this game needs.
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The Missing Link
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Post by The Missing Link on May 13, 2012 16:21:33 GMT -6
As in, it makes you uneasy towards me or towards him? Uneasy towards him. To be quite honest, I'm 90-95% convinced that you're Town, Kat. I don't see how anyone can have only one suspect... maybe a top suspect, but seems kinda scummy that you didn't have a contingency plan (if x is not mafia, then perhaps y is). But at least you're gonna read some more. Out of curiosity, Ernie, if you weren't voting for NPR, who's your #2 candidate? Actually, this can go both ways. It can go for townies, as you stated, and it can go for mafiats as well (I'm going to try and lynch X, if not him, then perhaps Y) That's a really shady defense. Actually, it's not a defense at all. Ernie is suggesting the hypothesis X (that only having a single possible suspicion) is indicative of being a Mafiat. Your retort is that ~X (the complement of X, namely having multiple suspicions) doesn't yield information. The two logical statements can both be true without contradiction. The point is more succinctly placed this way: Mafiats can have sufficient reason to withhold information because it's a totally valid ploy as Mafia to simply not stand out and just blend in with the popular opinion. On the other hand, Townies generally DO NOT have a reason to withhold information; anything that they have that is generally useful to reveal -- with the exception of a few small bits regarding powers and so forth -- should be revealed sooner than later. So in that sense, I'd ask... even if you don't have any other Mafia candidates... who do you think is likely Town? See, at this point, this is undefensible. Because that's not what's going on at this point. At the beginning of D1, I was totally willing to assume that the whole Kat/NPR voting/not-voting thing was cute, charming, chivalrous, and all that. But we're still talking about it, and so at this point we can't just dismiss the whole thing as silly D1 shenanigans. It has become A Thing™. If it wasn't A Thing™ to begin with, then every effort should have been made to get this out of the way on D1. At this point, I really do feel like someone in this mess is asking the question, "Have you stopped beating your wife recently?" There's no good succinct answer to that question. FoS: NPR
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Post by Erniewan on May 13, 2012 18:07:42 GMT -6
Of the JKilla voters, I'm probably most suspicious of Coyote, but like I said, I'd be willing to vote XX Stone as well. Now that he is requesting a replacement, it seems we shouldn't vote him, but it does remind me of Kat in MvC Mafia where she asked to be replaced.
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Post by Nyan Kat on May 13, 2012 18:14:37 GMT -6
I'm not overly suspicious of Coyote.
Also hey rude those were extenuating circumstances, that's the last time I play in four mafia games at once! >:[
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The Missing Link
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Post by The Missing Link on May 13, 2012 19:39:36 GMT -6
Can we get a vote count please? If I'm not mistaken, the vote tally for NPR is 4/6.
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