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Post by Hellfire on May 21, 2013 9:35:45 GMT -6
Well I agree that it was a bad read on my part. But based on what I saw in Day 1, I don't think I would have done things any differently. With Quads already having 3 votes, with the activity we've been having, I think it would have been pretty stupid of me to try to take suspicion off my fellow mafia so close to the deadline. The chances of anyone taking their vote off him without him defending himself was pretty minimal. I would just be increasing suspicion on myself once he did get lynched.
That leads me to the people I see being mafia. I think its one of the inactives. More likely, someone that was active initially and then closer to the deadline became less active (because they didn't want to defend Quads and didn't want to vote him, essentially giving them nothing to say). So, I'm looking at Malick and Kira. Soft, which post are you talking about? To me, they seem to be more about saying that what he did was suspicious, but not enough to put a vote on it.
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Post by softguitar on May 21, 2013 11:07:28 GMT -6
Not using those quote tags because it's too annoying.
Quads: "Malick, your initial hastiness to end the day didn't sit right with me. I don't agree with it, but it's not flashing scum to me right now." ^^ Really ambiguous, but it looks as if he's trying to seem like a good guy there by telling "Malick's not scum".
Sewious: Do you think it's something scum would do? Quads: If I'm being honest, I'm not too sure. ^^ Same thing. Tries not voting for Malick to avoid looking like mafia, maybe?
I may be reading things wrong. But hey, that's me.
I should also take a closer look at his post about "important posts" and see what I can find...
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Post by Hellfire on May 21, 2013 14:02:21 GMT -6
Yea those were the quotes I was looking at too. But I guess I was looking at it from the view that they were mafia buddies. So to me it seemed like he couldn't really say that Malick was right, so he went along with it being just odd but not scummy enough to warrant a vote. But I can see where you're coming from. I would like to hear more from Kira, Malick and LMM. Especially about their suspicions (about me too).
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Post by malick2037 on May 21, 2013 14:55:54 GMT -6
Sorry for the posting with little to useful information. I'll try to get better at this, but I have always not been so useful in Mafia Games. As of now I have more time so I will try to be more active.
My entire reasoning for not voting quads was that jumping around with votes is a way that I don't like to play. The only person I know for sure is town is Kira. I believe quads would have defended Kira's life if he was indeed scum.
Hellfire's vote toward me isn't standing out to be a defense of Quads. It was a normal reaction to my eccentric game play that could appear scummy. As of now Hellfire appears to be a townie.
I am not sure of Soft, LMM, and Monstrman. LMM and Monstr are a little to quiet for me to have anything to say. Soft does appear to be trying for the good of the town, but I don't know my gut says to keep an eye out.
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Post by Hellfire on May 21, 2013 15:54:43 GMT -6
I think Monstrman is almost certainly townie because of the way in which he outed Quads. He could pretty much have picked out anyone at that point in the game. So trying to lynch Quads, who turned out to be mafia, would have probably be the last thing a mafiat would do. I agree with Soft being likely townie as well. This is not 100%, but I think she's much more likely town right now as compared to most of us. Also, I'm not really saying he is mafia, but I wouldn't necessarily categorize Kira as a definite townie quite yet. If Quads was mafia and I'm assuming there are only 2 mafia, it would be a bad move to openly protect your partner. If that person is lynched, it would directly increase suspicions about you. For some reason, that last post made it seem like Malick is townie as well. So my two big targets right now would be LMM and Kira.
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Post by softguitar on May 22, 2013 0:19:24 GMT -6
I'd rather not go for inactive players unless we have no other option. Most of the time they turn out to be town, which means we'll be losing another player.
Then again, I'd really like LMM to come in RIGHT NOW.
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Post by Erniewan on May 24, 2013 8:17:04 GMT -6
Vote Count:Voted | # | Voters | Hellfire | 1 | monstrman |
Not voting: kirawillwin, Lordmanimani, softguitar, Malick, Hellfire With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Deadline: Sunday, June 2nd @ 8pmYou guys should post more...
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Post by Hellfire on May 24, 2013 17:48:52 GMT -6
Where are Kira and LMM?? 2 inactives with so few people remaining is a large portion to have no input from. Rest of you, anything else we can discuss while we're waiting for them? Monstrman, any response to my input? Think I'm more suspicious, think I'm less suspicious, or just the same? Soft and Malick, what do you think about the people alive? I'm out of topics since my two main suspects right now are the inactives (which I know looks pretty bad on me). But I think I've explained why I think so.
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Post by softguitar on May 27, 2013 10:30:02 GMT -6
I don't see anything suspicious of anyone who had posted before... Sorry, but that's all I have to say. It's really hard to catch people if they're not talking.
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Post by softguitar on May 31, 2013 11:36:12 GMT -6
Nobody's talking and there's a plurality vote for Hellfire right now. Have anything to say before the deadline, Hellfire? Monstrman, Malick, anyone? Hah.
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Post by Hellfire on May 31, 2013 16:45:42 GMT -6
lol, what can I say? I defended myself but literally no one has said anything useful since. I can't defend myself when there is no furthur discussion. Monstrman hasn't been on, so it doesn't seem like he's going to take that vote off. Apparently everyone other than you (Soft) is inactive. Can't really play a game with 2 people!
So, VOTE: LMM
The 4 people that were active at the beginning of the day seemed townie to me. Kira gave me a townie vibe yesterday. That leaves LMM. So I'm gonna go with him.
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Post by Hellfire on May 31, 2013 16:47:25 GMT -6
Well, saying that no one has said anything useful is a little extreme, but there has been no productive discussion. Can't really figure things out with no activity.
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Post by Erniewan on May 31, 2013 19:25:11 GMT -6
Vote Count:Voted | # | Voters | Hellfire | 1 | monstrman | LMM | 1 | Hellfire |
Not voting: Kat, Lordmanimani, softguitar, Malick With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Deadline: Sunday, June 2nd @ 8pmKat will be replacing kirawillwin. Welcome back to the game, Kat!
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Post by Nyan Kat on May 31, 2013 22:06:15 GMT -6
hi I'm replacing Kira. will catch up tomorrow.
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Post by monstrman on May 31, 2013 23:27:48 GMT -6
Oh hey this is still a thing. Man I don't visit this site that much anymore since the mafia disappearance...
ANYWAY
Hellfire, while I understand your reasoning, at this point you're the best suspect I've got. I somewhat trust Soft, and there isn't enough info anywhere else for me to base a suspicion, aside from malick who I can't read. I suppose I could just vote one of the inactives (LMM I guess) but I'd really rather not go that route until I've exhausted other possible suspects...
and though you say it would be really stupid of you to try and take suspicion off of quads, it is still a legitimate possibility regardless of how stupid it may seem to anyone. I can't rule you out on your word alone. Not to mention, you're still going for inactives, which kind of seems like an easy way to get people lynched without trying hard.
For now, I'm leaving my vote where it is. However, I will ask;
Hellfire, why do you trust Malick so much? Can you quote specific posts that make him seem townie to you?
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Post by Hellfire on Jun 1, 2013 0:35:08 GMT -6
My entire reasoning for not voting quads was that jumping around with votes is a way that I don't like to play. The only person I know for sure is town is Kira. I believe quads would have defended Kira's life if he was indeed scum. Hellfire's vote toward me isn't standing out to be a defense of Quads. It was a normal reaction to my eccentric game play that could appear scummy. As of now Hellfire appears to be a townie. If Malick was mafia, he'd want to take suspicions off him and put it on others. So finding other people innocent rather than accusing them would be a bad idea. Not just that, but he defends Kira (now Kat) and myself. Those are two of the three most suspicious people (the other one being LMM because of his inactivity). A mafioso would rather keep as many people as possible suspicious, especially those that the town seem to find suspicious.
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Post by monstrman on Jun 1, 2013 0:38:35 GMT -6
Is that the only one, or are there other instances? I can see your reasoning for that one, though, and I'm partially inclined to agree (I never trust my reads on malick; pretty much always wrong or always suspicious of him or both)
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Post by Hellfire on Jun 1, 2013 0:43:51 GMT -6
Sorry about the double post. The reason I find the inactives suspicious is not because they were inactive, but because I eliminated the actives as suspects. I've explained about why I do not believe that Monstrman, Softguitar or Malick are mafia. That leaves Kira (Kat) and LMM. So I picked one of them based on my gut. Kira made a couple of posts on Day 1 that led me to believe he was townie. I want to look at something else but its too late tonight so I'll look at it tomorrow morning and see if there's anything I can find regarding it. It probably will not change my vote, but it might at least lead to a little more discussion.
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Post by Nyan Kat on Jun 1, 2013 9:57:48 GMT -6
Soft- Soft is definitely working to make progress in this game, and I really think she's town. Hellfire- I'd like to ask you to clarify this post. If the person isn't even logging in, is that suspicious? As you said, there were lots of finals going on at the time of your post. I dunno, it just reads as you saying that someone having a life is suspicious. Also, his reads don't feel solid enough to me. I know it was D1, but that post made me wanna toast a couple Eggos if you know what I mean. HOW. EVER. this post made a lot of sense. I disagree with the reads therein, but the logic is okay. I'm really not sure. He does have good logic in his D2 posts, but I didn't much care for his D1. Malick- Throughout all of D1, I had a derptown read on Malick. Though this post rings a couple bells. Why would Quads defend Kira (now me) if they were scumbuddies? If anything, the distancing makes sense. Additionally, monstr has made few posts, yes, but they had really good content. I think you should look harder. I still think malick is lean-town, but that's not as strong as my other town reads. monstr- Mostly responsible for catching Quads. Bussing like that on D1 would be stupid, so he reads as townie. LMM- I really think he forgot about this game. That said, the few posts he did make had no content besides a response. Oh, and a non-scum on malick. Yeah, definitely willing to lynch him today. Inactive or no, the posts he did make really stank. vote: LMM
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Post by Hellfire on Jun 1, 2013 11:23:54 GMT -6
If they're not logging in at all, its not really suspicious. It just means that they're not really playing. Do I want to vote them off? Yes, they are a hindrance and are not helping the town in any way. Should we, as a town, vote them off solely because they are inactive? No, we should be targeting the mafia and wasting a lynch on an inactive would be a bad move. And just so I clarify, my vote on LMM is not because he is inactive. Its more because everyone else appears townie in my opinion. What I was thinking about (and mentioned I was going to look at) was the intent Soft's posts. She has definitely trying to promote discussion. I had thought that was where her activity ended. I thought there wasn't a real focus on finding mafia members as much as just posing question, but not necessarily voicing suspicions or defending people. As a townie, you want to see what people think, but also try to make accusations and see how people respond. Looking over the posts though, there is some kind of intent in her posts. A lot of her posts are about trying to generate a response, but there are a couple that don;t seem like she was just trying to go where the town was taking her (her post on Day 2 defending Malick). Anyways, I'll be heading outta town in the next couple of hours. I might or might not have internet access. So, if I do end up getting lynched and am not able to get online before then, here's what I think: Monstrman: Town. Malick: Town. Softguitar: Probable town. But I would be careful here just because as much as her posts have been for more discussion, there hasn't been a firm accusation or defense on her part. Might just be uncertainty because we're still just on Day 2. Might be mafia trying to follow the town and keep lynch options open Kat: Possible town. Not much to really go off here. Kira's defense on the first day seemed very uncharacteristic of him. Could have been help from a fellow mafioso? Also, his is a much weaker point, but something to consider. Ernie chose to replace Kira before LMM. In my opinion, LMM was more inactive and less likely to show up anytime soon. So why replace Kira? I don't think this should be stressed as strongly, but I guess its something to consider. LMM: Probable mafia
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Post by Nyan Kat on Jun 1, 2013 11:39:52 GMT -6
Thank you for your input. I don't want to lynch you today, but you still aren't off the table for the future.
(also I have no idea how Ernie does replacements maybe RNG? also I think he knows LMM elsewhere so maybe they've had communication there...)
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Post by LordManiMani on Jun 1, 2013 12:32:26 GMT -6
Hey guys, sorry, you'd be justified in voting me for inactivity (but don't cause I'm not the bad guy here, lol) Just need some time to catch up now.
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Post by softguitar on Jun 1, 2013 13:41:41 GMT -6
Like I said, I don't wanna go for the inactives. There's not enough content from LMM for me to vote (yet).
I don't know about Hellfire. He's been switching his mind about people a lot...
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Post by Erniewan on Jun 2, 2013 20:36:56 GMT -6
Vote Count:Voted | # | Voters | Hellfire | 1
| monstrman
| LMM | 2
| Hellfire, Kat |
Not voting: Softguitar, Malick, Lordmanimani It was late into the night and still the detectives had caught no real leads. Some of them were exhausted from the lack of sleep, some were just at a loss for words, and others were just hopelessly perplexed. Finally they agreed to just select one of the suspects who seemed to be helping the least, assuming that the Kira would operate from the shadows. Although he tried to assure them he wasn't Kira, insisting that his real name was Nate River and that he was a fellow detective, with his lack of serious input they could not trust him. They locked him up in a cell and agreed to continue interrogation in the morning after getting sleep. Of course, Kira had made good use of his name, and LordManiMani soon found himself another victim of a heartattack. LordManiMani was Nate River, Town.The Kira Investigation Team met up in the morning after having gotten a surprisingly good sleep. But oddly enough, the detective who had seemed to be leading the team was nowhere to be found. They searched his room, only to find it empty. Confused, they kept searching until one of them turned on the news and saw a disturbing headline: "Young man commits suicide by riding bicycle off bridge into deep chasm below", which had been caught on camera by a bystander. They recognized him as their missing lead detective who had gone by the name "L". Distraught at yet another loss, they began to work at catching this Kira who was assuredly still among them. Softguitar was L Lawliet, Town.
It is now Day 3. With 4 alive, it takes 3 to lynch. The Day will end when a majority is reached, or Tuesday, June 11th @ 8pm, whichever comes first.
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Post by Nyan Kat on Jun 2, 2013 21:31:01 GMT -6
You've gotta be @#$%ing kidding me.
Ernie, can we get a player list please?
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Post by Nyan Kat on Jun 2, 2013 21:32:26 GMT -6
Also, Monday is the 10th.
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Post by Erniewan on Jun 2, 2013 22:34:53 GMT -6
Oh yeah, I changed it from Tuesday to Monday but forgot the date. And I've been updating the roster on Page 1, but here's who is still alive:
Kat, Hellfire, monstrman, and Malick.
Edit: I'll just give you all til Tuesday anyways.
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Post by monstrman on Jun 3, 2013 1:06:57 GMT -6
vote:Hellfire
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Post by monstrman on Jun 3, 2013 1:07:36 GMT -6
wait wait wait unvote:hellfire
I'm pretty certain he's the last one but this -is- lylo. Let's talk about this.
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Post by monstrman on Jun 3, 2013 1:08:39 GMT -6
or, mislylo I guess.
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