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Post by monstrman on Sept 10, 2012 14:54:18 GMT -6
Alright alright I'll trust list or whatever.
Caleton: I'm leaning town, but he seems like he's one of those people that would be sneaky at being mafia. Same with hellfire so
Hellfire: Read above
Kat: I'm leaning town, but at the same time the multiple armor thing is just... weird. I'd only go for her as a last ditch effort, if at all. This is probably about 60% gut feeling
Malick: For sure town. I just don't see him being mafia, especially because his watch was proven when we lynched NPR.
VGA: I wanna say town, but I can never be sure with him. I'll leave him at null-leaning town
TML: I generally also have a bias against TML being scum, as I have noticed he has the same for me. I think it's just difference in playstyles, and though he appears to be genuine thus far, I always have to keep him as a suspicion on the backburner because he is devious when he needs to be.
Robbiecon: Null. I can understand why you guys would say that a mafia wouldn't say "the mafia probs stumped Monstr" But I also see a possibility where he was mafia, knew NPR was the one who stumped me, then claimed it was the mafia. I dunno, I can see him going both ways.
Impereld: Null again, but leaning town. I sense a little bit of genuine-ness in his posts, but at the same time... I just don't have that great of a read on him.
Blrasmu: null-leaning scum. A bunch of his posts have bothered me so far, and I think I might re-read to see if we can link him to anyone else. Later though, for now, reads.
Kira: Null. I can -never- read kira. Squeege says he can, but personally, he just doesn't post enough for me to get a solid anything on him. Perhaps if we asked him some questions... Kira, what is your opinion of blrasmu, Robbiecon and Gameguy? I ask because I think it's likely blras is scum, and I don't have a very good read on robbie or gameguy. Also you should make your trust list.
Gameguy: lurking, so null-scum. He hasn't posted once today, which I find extremely odd.
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Post by monstrman on Sept 10, 2012 14:55:25 GMT -6
Also kira, if you could include -why- you read the people I asked you to read the way you were reading them, that would be great. If you could include quotes, that would be even better.
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Post by Nyan Kat on Sept 10, 2012 16:40:22 GMT -6
You...have nulls on a lot of people, blrasmu, and yet kira is scum due to PoE? That don't make no sense
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Post by vgaddict on Sept 10, 2012 19:30:00 GMT -6
Just workin on my notes.
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Post by Nyan Kat on Sept 10, 2012 20:08:13 GMT -6
FoS: VGA[/color] for continuing to stall
FFR, especially if you're town you're better off just not saying anything until you've got what you need. At least, I feel that way.
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Post by Erniewan on Sept 10, 2012 22:26:36 GMT -6
Vote Count:Voted | # | Voters | blrasmu | 4 | Caleton, Kat, robbiecon, TML | impereld | 1 | malick | Caleton | 1 | blrasmu |
No vote (5): GameGuy, Hellfire, kirawillwin, impereld, vgaddict With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Day 4 ends on Tuesday, September 11th @ 6:30 pm (CST).PM me if you want an extension.
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Post by Nyan Kat on Sept 10, 2012 22:38:11 GMT -6
guys GameGuy isn't actually lurking. I think he's broken again. Last login date is 28 August.
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Post by The Missing Link on Sept 10, 2012 23:16:15 GMT -6
Hmm...TML, given that you incorrectly thought I trusted impereld, does finding out otherwise affect your read on me at all? It does. That was one of the major WTF moments that I had when analysing you, but otherwise, as I said, you seem on the Townie side of things. Not that agreeing with me is a requirement of being Town, but so far your judgments have seemed on the level. Such as it is though, I do have the tendency to trust you way too much. X) I am Natalia Romanova. If someone targets me at night, I investigate them to learn their alignment. I can also manipulate someone into targeting me at night, and I will learn their role. So far, no one has targeted me. Last night I manipulated someone and learned their role. I would rather not identify them at this time. This... makes me very uneasy. Because my general rule of thumb is to give whomever claims to be the cop a little benefit of the doubt just in case. But... Your claim just rubs me wrong for three reasons. First and foremost, you're a cop that could, theoretically, get multiple detections on a single night if you stand out well enough. Yet we're here on D4 with not a whole lot to show for your work. Well, you know someone, but you're unwilling to tell. And I can get why you would be interested in not telling someone's role, but I'm uncertain as to why you wouldn't at least tell their alignment. It's got that ring of... you know. Second, Squeege flipped as... not Tony Stark but Iron Man. MF flipped as not Bruce Banner but The Hulk. So when you tell me that you're Natalia, it doesn't sound like it's in "theme" with the rest of the claims. I would come to suspect that your role would be the Black Widow instead. Third, while it isn't always the case, flavor cops tend to be more in line with the Mafia instead of the Town. Town cops have a tendency just to get alignment, whereas Mafia cops (who more or less already know alignments) tend to get role information instead. Yet... gaahh Yes. So instead of waiting to be targeted, I manipulated some else to target me. Therefore, I did not see Malik target me. And then there's this. You originally said that no one has targeted you, but what you really meant to say was that no one has targeted you while you've been passively analysing things. This is either honestly the truth, or a really solid attempt to sidestep an error, I can't tell. Someone else mentioned that you have a lot of nulls, but what rubs me worse is the lack of explanation behind it. It almost feels like you're not really looking for Mafia if that's all you really have... :/ I dunno. I stand unconvinced.
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Post by Nyan Kat on Sept 10, 2012 23:35:43 GMT -6
Last time I played with blrasmu the cop, he was really really obvtown to me. He actually tried to scumhunt instead of relying on his night actions. So...yeah, I don't like this claim.
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Post by Hellfire on Sept 11, 2012 0:19:54 GMT -6
Blrasmu's actions just don't make sense...at least not if he was actually trying to help the town. Does not post much at all. Gets a bunch of votes and then claims. The character is strong, but the role is iffy. Either way, I give him the benefit of the doubt there. He then votes Caleton, and gives a really not-so-good reason. That's the part that I really don't get. Based on that theory, if malick votes you today, and votes you tomorrow (if you make it that far), you're going to vote him? I choose malick because it seems that the entire town agree that he is most likely townie. But that action just seems scummy to me...someone trying to divert the attention off. I've been feeling off about him for a while now (as can be seen with my vote for him on Day 2), so Vote: blrasmu[/color].
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Post by Caleton on Sept 11, 2012 1:29:55 GMT -6
woah, you guys realllllly got active finally. yeahhhh, I don't believe blrasmu's claim at all.... Hellfire and TML pretty much already stated all the holes in your claim, so I don't feel there's much point in repeating them. The main thing that I found interesting as others did was your trust list. "Kirawillwin -- mafia, due to process of elimination" Where did that come from, you have 4 people listed as "don't know", but then you say that you know kira is scum by process of elimination? Since that clearly doesn't make any sense, personally what I suspect is that if kira really is mafia like i said i think he is, blrasmu was calling out kira as mafia, so that once blrasmu gets lynched, we would think kira can't possibly be mafia. Also, TML made an excellent point about robbie. There's not much scum motivation behind saying "Oh, the mafia stumped monstrman!" So I'll move him to null-town. I disagree with that. Since the mafia knew that they did not perform the stump, they knew it must have been a townie or independent, both people they want killed. So it would be strategic for the mafia to want to make the town believe that the mafia stumped monstrman so that when we found the stumper, we would lynch him. Which is what ended up happening. And monstrman, I'm sorry. At this point I'm pretty much sure you're town just because of how honest sounding your role reveal and explanation of your hangman game and pretty much all your posts were. I would be very surprised if you're actually mafia. In case you are, kudos to your excellent ruse. And I forget who said this, I think hellfire, but i agree with them so I'm going to slightly change my list, or at least reorganize to fit this. (Also, hellfire, I'm soooo sorry. I remember i was really careful to call you "he" but then i deleted a lot of the post and changed it rather quickly so i guess i forgot the 2nd time...) Townies: Malick, Nyan Kat, (Monstrman) Mafia: Blrasmu, kirawillwin Probably 2 of [impereld, game guy, robbiecon, or vgaddict] (very very very maybe 3 but unlikely) If only 1 of the above 4 are mafia, then either TML or Hellfire is mafia. Personally leaning towards hellfire. Although I think its very likely that neither are mafia.
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Post by impereld on Sept 11, 2012 9:14:48 GMT -6
Okay, so blarsmu's magnet/cop role thing is not sitting right with me. He attracts people to target him and he can see them. In that case, why didn't something happen to him from this person? Why didn't something happen that would either give malick or blarsmu some indication of just what the hell happened?
There's just too much going on here for me to believe that blarsmu is telling the truth. Other people have given reasons already that have made me think "hmm, that's odd." And while one or two odd happenings isn't enough to have me vote blarsmu, the amount of evidence leaves me no choice but to
Vote: blarsmu[/color]
and be done with it.
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Post by Erniewan on Sept 11, 2012 9:51:49 GMT -6
It is now Twilight. I'll update the flip and send out EP counts when I get home from work.
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Post by Erniewan on Sept 11, 2012 18:01:22 GMT -6
Vote Count:Voted | # | Voters | blrasmu | 6 | Caleton, Kat, robbiecon, TML, Hellfire, impereld | impereld | 1 | malick | Caleton | 1 | blrasmu |
No vote (3): GameGuy, kirawillwin, vgaddict With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.The superheroes had been devastated when their leader had been killed, but they had pushed on without him, determined to cut the invaders off before they could cause any more damage. There was one shady character dressed in black who seemed to be hiding something, and so they made her their next focus of interrogation. After failing to assuage their suspicions with her charms, she began to explain to them her position as an expert spy and an agent of S.H.I.E.L.D., and that they were busting her cover. But all they seemed to hear was the word "spy" and immediately assumed the worst; was she undercover because she was actually an agent of the enemy learning all their secrets? And with that they all began to attack her, putting her on the defensive. The superheroes began to fire their weapons at her all at once; she dodged the first few attacks, but she could not withstand the sheer number of projectiles. First one grazed her shoulder, then another lodged into her leg; after a few shots she was immobilized, then finally executed at point blank. She slunk onto the ground, never to fight again. blrasmu was Black Widow, Reverse Cop/Magnet, TownThe Avengers were filled with guilt over having murdered one of their own, especially one with a specialty in information gathering. They went back to their rooms and each locked the doors tight, most of them deep in thought rather than sleeping. It is now Night 4. If you have enough EP to use an action, you may send me your choice now. If you wish to abstain, PM me that instead. The Night ends in 48 hours, or September 13th @ 7:00 pm (CST)
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