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Post by vgaddict on Aug 31, 2012 15:25:57 GMT -6
Imperald, please explain why you're not getting good vibes from me.
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Post by NPR on Aug 31, 2012 16:21:53 GMT -6
I'm sorry TML, but your post lost me. It was way too long for me to read all of it in my current condition, but to answer your question, I do not get to choose which of my possibilities I perform. If I did, I would kill the attacker every single time And yes, each possibility has the same probability of occurring
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Post by Caleton on Aug 31, 2012 17:31:07 GMT -6
Wait so NPR, to make it clear. You can target a person at night. If that person was targeted for a kill, then randomly decided, either the person will be protected OR the attacker will be killed OR you will die in place of the target. And all three possibilities are mutually exclusive. Is that correct?
Also, if monstrman busdrove himself and MF night 1, and NPR targeted MF night 1, that means NPR targetted monstrman night 1 and night 2. I'm not sure that matters, but I find it amusing.
Missing Link, I saw a couple of errors in your logic. One of them monstr already mentioned about malick targetting monstr and not npr. As well, you assumed that npr's power would apply to the stumpification, but I was thinking it wouldn't since npr said he protected against kills, and stumping is not killing. As well, I know the role said the person killed by the doppelganger will appear as doppelganger, but maybe they still appear as their actual alignment
Also, I do believe Linnet is in fact mafia, because I went back and reread all her posts a few days ago, and although I didn't notice it while she was alive, they do seem rather scummy. Especially her outright bandwagon on MF.
And, Malick, please, i already asked this but you missed it. Or ignored it. Is there a reason you believe only NPR targetted monstrman, or is it just a feeling.
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Post by malick2037 on Aug 31, 2012 17:34:09 GMT -6
@tml No I targeted Monstr, I only saw NPR target Monstr. I'm not sure if someone was unable to be detected by me. Most likely no one else targeted Monstr.
NPR's arguments and my logic from my night action leads me to think NPR is Scummy scum. (I didn't typo this time, I double checked.)
Unvote: Kat[/color]
Vote: NPR[/color]
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Post by malick2037 on Aug 31, 2012 17:35:28 GMT -6
EBWOP: Caleton I'm sorry I am skimming reading because school work is piling on. I just have a gut feeling only NPR targeted Monstrman.
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Post by Erniewan on Aug 31, 2012 17:46:32 GMT -6
Vote Count:Voted | # | Voters | Kat | 0 | NPR, malick | Malick | 0 | Kat, vgaddict | NPR | 4 | Kat, robbiecon, vgaddict, TML, malick | blrasmu | 3 | impereld, Caleton, NPR |
No vote: Kat, GameGuy, Hellfire, blrasmu, kirawillwin, Squeege With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day 3 ends on Sunday, September 2nd @ 7:30 pm (CST).
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Post by NPR on Aug 31, 2012 17:57:42 GMT -6
Wait so NPR, to make it clear. You can target a person at night. If that person was targeted for a kill, then randomly decided, either the person will be protected OR the attacker will be killed OR you will die in place of the target. And all three possibilities are mutually exclusive. Is that correct? You forgot about me failing, and the person I chose to protect dies. And yes, each of these has a 25% chance to happen, and what happens is chosen at random.
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Post by Hellfire on Aug 31, 2012 18:40:44 GMT -6
@tml No I targeted Monstr, I only saw NPR target Monstr. I'm not sure if someone was unable to be detected by me. Most likely no one else targeted Monstr. Vote: NPR[/color][/quote] Normally, if a person is watched/tracked (I always get the two mixed up), I think you get every result, not just one chosen at random. I really wanted Kat to answer the question I had about her logic because there may be something I'm missing. I don't get how that situation would make him townie. And since she's not going to be here until after the deadline anyways, Vote: NPR[/color] To summarize my argument against him, I just don't believe him. I highly doubt that there is no doctor. And I can't see there being so many protective roles!
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Post by The Missing Link on Sept 1, 2012 3:17:28 GMT -6
So my ability to post will be really spotty over the next few days as I'm attending PAX this weekend. And I just got in, so I'm super tired, but I'll post a few thoughts before hitting the sack. Missing Link, I saw a couple of errors in your logic. One of them monstr already mentioned about malick targetting monstr and not npr. As well, you assumed that npr's power would apply to the stumpification, but I was thinking it wouldn't since npr said he protected against kills, and stumping is not killing. As well, I know the role said the person killed by the doppelganger will appear as doppelganger, but maybe they still appear as their actual alignment Yeah, I found that Malick claimed to be a watcher instead of a tracker last night. That does make the case even stronger though. It isn't clear if a protective-like role only affects straight-up kills or if the term "attack" should be interpreted much more broadly. That said, I can't help but think it's not impossible for a stumpification -- given that he's implicitly categorized along with the deceased -- to not be grand some special exception for knocking people out of the game. But it is an unprovable point. Re: Doppelganger, I was hoping to get some input on the role as it's traditionally seen. I do think it's still worth keeping the possibility open, but I've seen enough Mafia games where strange interplay between night actions can cause weird things. Boy have I. I probably will be posting pretty minimally until EOD, but I'll try to chime in with thoughts during the nights.
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Post by kirawillwin on Sept 1, 2012 9:04:57 GMT -6
Vote: NPR[/color] I am so sure he isn't town at this point, in my opinion there is no way that there are three armor type roles in this game, so far there as only been one kill a night if any, which leads me to believe there is no serial killer. If malik watched monstr like he said, shouldn't that show EVERYONE who targeted him not just NPR? if that is the case then NPR is the only person to target monstr. I also Doubt the stumping item idea, and NPR said that the item he got wasn't a stumper.
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Post by Erniewan on Sept 1, 2012 9:43:57 GMT -6
Vote Count:Voted | # | Voters | Kat | 0 | NPR, malick | Malick | 0 | Kat, vgaddict | NPR | 6 | Kat, robbiecon, vgaddict, TML, malick, Hellfire, kirawillwin | blrasmu | 3 | impereld, Caleton, NPR |
No vote: Kat, GameGuy, blrasmu, Squeege With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day 3 ends on Sunday, September 2nd @ 7:30 pm (CST).And another item on the table. To claim it, post Claim Item.
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Post by vgaddict on Sept 1, 2012 10:25:05 GMT -6
Claim Item.
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Post by Erniewan on Sept 1, 2012 11:52:20 GMT -6
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Post by vgaddict on Sept 1, 2012 12:34:03 GMT -6
Can I drop my current item to replace it with this item?
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Post by Hellfire on Sept 1, 2012 12:34:08 GMT -6
Claim Item!
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Post by Erniewan on Sept 1, 2012 12:36:47 GMT -6
Can I drop my current item to replace it with this item? Nope. Hellfire gets the item. Also, there will probably not be an extension, so plan accordingly.
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Post by Caleton on Sept 1, 2012 20:18:17 GMT -6
At this point, I'm not sure. As I think about it more, his role does seem rather obscure, and his power is a rather easy and hard to prove claim. I guess maybe ernie gave the mafia fake-role-claims? Plus the whole thing with the malick. I guess, he's probably mafia, but I felt more certain about other people.
Regardless I'm not going to place the killing vote, at least not yet. Because, I really feel we should at least give him a chance to defend himself now that he knows he's almost definitely dying.
Like seriously. Don't kill him yet. If no one has applied the final shot by tomorrow, I would to insure a lynch. But wait. -.-
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Post by Squeege on Sept 1, 2012 20:37:38 GMT -6
Reason I'm not too sure on NPR: why would the scum stump Monstr? He's one of the better, more active players in the game, and having him be able to talk during the endgame will probably help a lot. I can't see why they would use it on him; it makes more sense to me that the stumper was a townie... but then again, I would expect that townie to speak up by now.
The role itself is a common enough role. The ability makes some amount of sense with the character, though really almost any super hero could be a bodyguard.
Did NPR ever claim what his item did? If not, now would be a good time.
I'ma Vote: Blras[/color] so I get EP, and because I would still rather lynch him over NPR atm.
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I'm personally subscribing to the "Linnet was actually Town" theory, at least until I get a good reread on her.
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Post by Hellfire on Sept 1, 2012 21:49:31 GMT -6
Regardless I'm not going to place the killing vote, at least not yet. Because, I really feel we should at least give him a chance to defend himself now that he knows he's almost definitely dying. Like seriously. Don't kill him yet. If no one has applied the final shot by tomorrow, I would to insure a lynch. But wait. -.- I believe he said would not be back for the weekend. Not pressuring you or anything, but he did mention that in the Leave of Absence Thread. And I didn't like the fact that he didn't have one final post defending himself. But I guess if he had already mentioned all of his defence, that would be pointless.
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Post by monstrman on Sept 2, 2012 11:55:54 GMT -6
Honestly... at this point... if we don't lynch NPR now, we're just gonna get the same people wanting to lynch him again tomorrow. Just saiyan goku.
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Post by Caleton on Sept 2, 2012 14:00:16 GMT -6
Oh, Hellfire. I didn't notice that. Well, if he's not going to say anything else... Fine. I'll do it. Hopefully, he actually is mafia. And I've already mentioned the people I think we should be going after.
Unvote: blrasmu[/color]
Vote: npr[/color]
He's dead! And I killed him. His blood is on my hands forever! D:
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Post by Squeege on Sept 2, 2012 14:08:20 GMT -6
Didn't see that NPR said he would be away, though I did see that he at least claimed his item.
After reading back on NPR, I don't really see him as scum... but at this point I don't see a blras lynch kicking off and I agree with monstr that NPR probably needs to be lynched otherwise he's going to be a distraction tomorrow. If no one votes him by the end of the day, I will.
I read back on Linnet, and there was one thing she did at the beginning of Day 1 that looked really townie (the way she talked about her gut town read on kat had a train of thought that would be really strange from scum), but most of her behavior could go either way. So I'm putting her as "maybe town, but not quite banking on it". There weren't many interactions to get from her anyway, other than it being unlikely that her and Kira are scumbuddies.
Kat asked me about my town read on Kira, and I'll see if I can explain it a little later. One of the reasons is he's a lot more prone to overreacting to kills and stuff when he's scum, and he isn't really doing that here. He also tries to hide more as scum.
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Post by Squeege on Sept 2, 2012 14:10:23 GMT -6
well, ninja'd. Hoping I'm wrong (given that I haven't been able to get into this game as much as usual, I could definitely see it).
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Post by Erniewan on Sept 2, 2012 14:42:35 GMT -6
It is now Twilight. We'll be calculating the EP then sending you a PM. You may send your action (or abstain) after you receive your count.
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Post by Erniewan on Sept 2, 2012 15:40:23 GMT -6
Vote Count:Voted | # | Voters | Kat | 0 | NPR, malick | Malick | 0 | Kat, vgaddict | NPR | 7 | Kat, robbiecon, vgaddict, TML, malick, Hellfire, kirawillwin, Caleton | blrasmu | 3 | impereld, Caleton, NPR, Squeege |
No vote: Kat, GameGuy, blrasmu With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.After monstrman had announced in the morning that he had lost his superpowers, the Avengers began to grow more anxious. If there was a person or machine that could do this, it had to be found immediately or their whole team could be rendered powerless to stop the threats that plagued the world! Each of them pooled together their efforts and eventually they came across a lone man who seemed to fit monstrman's brief description. The man, seeing he was cornered, began to claim that he wasn't the one controlling the machine, he was only there to provide his service to protect! Very few believed him, and soon he knew he would have to take the offensive. He activated his armor, and pulled the machine out of his cloak, pressing the trigger to begin the countdown sequence. The Avengers began to attack him, firing blasts and delivering blows, but none seemed to penetrate his armor. Two of the Avengers focused on the machine, but were unable to deactivate it; but they were able to focus the output firing device; at the very last second, with the high pitched humming reaching its climax, they directed it at NPR, hitting him dead on. NPR's armor instantly powered off, and he could no longer hold back the Avengers. They now made quick work of him, ending his reign of terror. After evaluating the worth of the machine, they also decided that it too was too dangerous to keep around, and it was promptly destroyed. They headed back to their rooms for the night with the satisfaction of having one less threat to worry about. NPR was Doctor Doom, Inventor/Stump SK, IndependentIt is now Night 3. If you have enough EP to use an action, you may send me your choice now. If you wish to abstain, PM me that instead. The Night ends in 48 hours, or September 4th @ 6:00 pm (CST)
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