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Post by Erniewan on Mar 14, 2012 19:47:40 GMT -6
Shrek32 didn't go back to his hut that night; he was hot on the trail and determined to do his part in killing the mafia, even if it meant taking matters into his own hands. Also, taking a knife into his own hands, he crept silently through the jungle, where he saw his quarry sitting on a bench talking to someone. He waited until he was alone, then inched his way closer. Suddenly, he was struck with a heavy blow from behind, knife falling from his grasp. He attempted desperately to fight back, but he had lost the element of surprise. The ambusher made quick work of him with a few smashing cracks to the head. shrek32 was Sayid Jarrah, Righteous Vigilante, TownIt was a sorrowful day in the morning when everyone gathered together to mourn the death of one of their most formidable members, a man who had the skills to take on the threats that lurked within. But they were thankful that only one had been lost, and they still maintained the clout during the Day to overwhelm the mafia with numbers. With a spark of hope in their eyes, they set out to use their minds to do some righteous executions of their own. It is now Day 3.With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch. Day 3 ends on Wednesday, March 21st @ 9pm (CST). Roster:1. NPR - Jack Shephard, Doctor [Protector], Town, Lynched D22. DarthPokey 3. Worthy Protoplasm 4. monstrman 5. DrShlub 6. blrasmu 7. Miracle Fassad shrek32 - Sayid Jarrah, Righteous Vigilante, Town, Killed N28. Doc 9. Puppyduck - Ethan Rom, Doctor/Infiltrator, The Others Mafia, Killed N110. robbiecon 11. XX Stone 12. SMAP 13. thegameguy 14. Meow 15. kirawillwin 16. capcommaster 17. waehofen 18. Captain Planet 19. kpio Squeege 20. CaptainOblivious 21. Kat T. Bard 22. soup567 - ??????, Killed N123. commonyoshi 24. LordManiMani 25. wave57 26. vitritaime 27. Jamis And here's the theme of the day!
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Post by Nyan Kat on Mar 14, 2012 19:56:30 GMT -6
vote: Darthpokey[/color]
You die now, scum.
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Post by vitritaime on Mar 14, 2012 20:00:13 GMT -6
I was about to do the same thing Kat
vote: Darth Pokey
I don't know how NPR was telling the truth but oh my god.
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Post by Captain Oblivious on Mar 14, 2012 20:44:22 GMT -6
Lol for real I got a random message last night saying we shouldn't lynch him.
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Post by Squeege on Mar 14, 2012 20:52:48 GMT -6
DP is still town guys.
Some of the stuff Vit was doing yesterday made me think she may be town, but that vote just now felt bad.
And... I suck for not doing anything yesterday. I'm going to go through now and answer questions from yesterday, and give a scumlist with reasons and stuff.
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Post by vitritaime on Mar 14, 2012 21:03:29 GMT -6
As soon as NPR showed up as protector I decided Pokey was getting my vote today because I've been iffy about him all game and I ignored it to lynch NPR. I feel like he was leading that lynch and we just went right along with it. I was so ashamed when he flipped town....given, NPR was not helping his case at all, but still. And I never got a reason for why you voted for me yesterday anyway squeege.
Also CO was that all you got? Just a message saying not to lynch him? Did it have any other information?
I'll be back with a more in depth post probably tomorrow.
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Post by Captain Oblivious on Mar 14, 2012 21:06:24 GMT -6
Yeah that's it, lol.
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Post by monstrman on Mar 14, 2012 21:48:01 GMT -6
So I think the mafia may have a detective... why the hell else would they kill shrek32? Honestly?
Of course, that's just speculation and doesn't really mean much.
I still think pokey is town.
Ernie... I'm going to kill you...
Squeege... I don't like that post. "DP is still town" It feels like one of the things scum says like he KNOWS pokey is town, so he says "pokey is town"
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Post by monstrman on Mar 14, 2012 21:48:39 GMT -6
vote:squeege[/color]
at least until you come back with your reads. Because you were gone all yestergameday too
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Post by XX Stone on Mar 14, 2012 22:00:10 GMT -6
I have to say that I legitimately thought that NPR was mafia at the end there... he certainly was acting scummy enough. I told him I'd go after DP if he turned out to be town, so... DarthPokeyWe certainly don't need to rush this, but I don't think we can go wrong here. Also: You understand we can't just take your word on this...
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Post by XX Stone on Mar 14, 2012 22:00:42 GMT -6
As in Vote: DarthPokey
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Post by Squeege on Mar 14, 2012 22:02:45 GMT -6
Squeege... I don't like that post. "DP is still town" It feels like one of the things scum says like he KNOWS pokey is town, so he says "pokey is town" Pokey is town because he doesn't put in this much effort as mafia. When DP is mafia, he lurks and doesn't say anything of value. Plus, his read on Vit felt genuine, especially the way he sorta changed his mind during D1. "I was so ashamed when he flipped town" feels incredibly fake here. As does the blame your putting on DP for the NPR lynch. It took 13 of you to lynch NPR; if you thought DP had faulty reasoning, you should've brought that up before NPR was lynched. And I'll explain the vote soon enough.
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Post by Darthpokey on Mar 14, 2012 22:05:51 GMT -6
I was waiting to see if people jump on me because now would be the perfect time for the mafia to try to lynch me. But I still stand by my reasoning for voting NPR. He was acting incredibly scummy and deserved to be lynched. That claim from him was also absolutely ridiculous and there was no way I was going to believe it. I'm still shocked he was telling the truth.
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Post by vitritaime on Mar 14, 2012 22:11:45 GMT -6
Squeege what. I didn't say I thought his reasoning was faulty. I whole heartedly believed that we were doing the right thing and after he flipped I was flabbergasted and annoyed that [and this is how I feel about it] Pokey led us into a mislynch. I just pictured him sitting there all giddy that it actually worked. Pokey is good at mafia and I think you're wrong when you say he doesn't try when he is mafia. Generally, at least from memory which may be completely IRC based, when pokey leads a lynch and he is town, he's right. But this time the person we lynched was town. Pokey can get the town to rally behind him and pull off a mislynch this isn't a new thing with him.
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Post by waehofen on Mar 14, 2012 22:37:09 GMT -6
I still think pokey is town. Squeege... I don't like that post. "DP is still town" It feels like one of the things scum says like he KNOWS pokey is town, so he says "pokey is town" monstrman pls ALSO: N1: two people die D2: find mafia doctor dead, lynch town doctor N2: one person dies
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Post by blrasmu on Mar 14, 2012 23:08:54 GMT -6
So, now what? Since NPR was telling the truth, does that leave us with just on protector left, and very close from losing already? If so, that sucks. Also if, protector, stay hidden unless you get to L-2 or something like that.
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Post by Meow on Mar 15, 2012 4:22:17 GMT -6
^ Continuing from that, we shouldn't lynch anyone until they have a chance to talk. However, this puts us in a VERY bad position. If a mafiat gets to L-2, they can just claim to be the other protector. Obviously we won't lynch them, but we'll need our own protector to stay hidden anyway. If the real protector comes forth, they will die that night as we have no doctor or anything. Unless they have their own way of making a new protector...
So, I used night 2 to read up on everything, and I've got a few things to share with you guys. First of all, I'm getting quite suspicious of Kat. It's not like "Omg she's 100% mafia get her naooooo", but there's just a niggling feeling there. A couple of posts she has made just seem a tad suspicious to me, such as: @xx yeah basically what wae, DP, et al. said. u paranoid bro? It just seemed like a common scum tactic, where they put an idea in people's heads to distract them, and then attempt to write off anybody who questions that.
Then there's the classic first-time-i'm-playing-as-mafia comment: Hey quick question: All of you peeps with town reads on me, why is that?[/color] I'm just curious! [/quote] Not only does she want tips about how to act more townish, but the act of thinking about what makes her town puts the idea that she is town inside your head.
Next up is the "This guy is totally mafia. That's your opinion, I'm just agreeing with you!" After NPR made this post: Ok, let me make sure we're on the same page. I call DP's meta-argument a s***ty attempt to lynch me, and this is scummy? Let's roll back to D1, where DP used meta to try to lynch you. Now, using meta D1 to vote for someone is ok i guess, but using it to bandwagon someone on D1 is a different story. I call him out on it, and I get votes for that. Tell me again how all of this is scummy, because I don't see it. Kat posted: wow NPR is just getting scummier by the minute isn't he? Seriously, if he flips anything other than mafia I'll probably cry. Simultaneously putting the idea of him being scummy, and relieving any suspicion on herself for saying that. Very clever, I must say...
There's also the fact that she said long posts = town and then made a long post later in the game, but that's thin at best.
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Post by Squeege on Mar 15, 2012 10:27:13 GMT -6
I'm gonna do stuff sorta piecewise, rather than trying to get my whole reread in one post. Part of the reason why I didn't post yesterday is that I lost most of my notes from Day 1, which made me unenthusiastic about typing up the same points again. Still not really acceptable, but there it is. Squeege what. I didn't say I thought his reasoning was faulty. I whole heartedly believed that we were doing the right thing and after he flipped I was flabbergasted and annoyed that [and this is how I feel about it] Pokey led us into a mislynch. I just pictured him sitting there all giddy that it actually worked. Pokey is good at mafia and I think you're wrong when you say he doesn't try when he is mafia. Generally, at least from memory which may be completely IRC based, when pokey leads a lynch and he is town, he's right. But this time the person we lynched was town. Pokey can get the town to rally behind him and pull off a mislynch this isn't a new thing with him. If you thought his reasoning was fine, then why do you question his intentions? My point is, Pokey was hardly the only one who thought NPR was scum. And even though he was one of the ones pushing hardest, he had a lot of confidence, like he was sure he was right and wasn't worried about how he would look if NPR did flip town. IRC is a different beast, and I'd believe that he's more savvy there than on forum-based mafia. There's much less time to analyze in IRC, so it's easier to lead bad lynches. I'm going by what I've seen of him in games on this site, which is more valid meta. Meow: I agree with you on the last Kat quote you gave (felt like it could've been fake), but the asking for reasons on her being town is a town tell for most people, and the other quote is null IMO. Plus, Kat has been pretty town this game (she's been asking a lot of good questions, and seems to be actively scumhunting), other than an odd post or two. ~ Questions from yesterDay: Why? (Particularly the vit-town implies NPR-town bit, but I'd like you to answer all of that) Because there was some stuff that made it look like Vit and NPR could be buddies (NPR pseudo defending Vit, Vit's reaction to DP thinking they were buddies). If Vit's town, those points don't make any sense. DP's reasoning for Vit being scum was fine, and the way he sorta changed his mind about her looked like it came from a town mindset. Vit flipping town wouldn't change my opinion of him. . Squeege: Why does your name remind me of Luigi? Maybe cause you're thinking of it like squeegee rather than squeege (so it rhymes)? I dunno. I do know that Luigi is better than Mario though. squeege: I think it definitely makes smap a person of interest. maybe its not enough to say why exactly, but it could either mean smap is mafia or the mafia wants to frame him. or coincidental, but I think it's better to err out coincidences until evidence has been looken into My point was, you brought it up, but you aren't saying what you think it means. There's no analysis there, just "this happened". Do you think it means that SMAP is more likely to be scum?
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Post by Nyan Kat on Mar 15, 2012 11:52:57 GMT -6
However, this puts us in a VERY bad position. If a mafiat gets to L-2, they can just claim to be the other protector. Obviously we won't lynch them, but we'll need our own protector to stay hidden anyway. Well, yeah, but they'll also need to claim a role. Then there's the classic first-time-i'm-playing-as-mafia comment: [my quote goes here where did it go?] Not only does she want tips about how to act more townish, but the act of thinking about what makes her town puts the idea that she is town inside your head. I asked that because so many people had town reads on my pretty early, that it was a little unsettling. wow NPR is just getting scummier by the minute isn't he? Seriously, if he flips anything other than mafia I'll probably cry. Simultaneously putting the idea of him being scummy, and relieving any suspicion on herself for saying that. Very clever, I must say... naw that was just me messing with him... =P He really did read scummy to me. I still call hax! There's also the fact that she said long posts = town and then made a long post later in the game, but that's thin at best. Not necessarily. It depends on what's IN the post. Also, DP made some long posts and I still think he's scum!
CO, I bet that message was from him. And having played with a scum messenger, that doesn't really sway me one way or the other. DP's original reasoning on NPR was still bad, like I said. I would have been suspicious of him either way. NPR's responses were bad, and others had good reasoning. That's why I pushed for his lynch. re: Squeege's name- I always think Janitor. It just sounds like one of those janitorial tools! x) I think that if DP = scum, Squeege = scum. My read of monstr continues to deteriorate into null territory. Everyone else is about where they were, oddly enough.
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Post by Captain Oblivious on Mar 15, 2012 12:28:28 GMT -6
Yeah I'm a little too reminded of "You vote, you die" to trust this kind of message. If it's not from DP himself it'd have to be from somebody who could both investigate or otherwise find out DP's alignment and also be able to send messages... so IDK about that. Personally I wouldn't send this type of message unless I knew for sure. Of course it could be from a mafia message sender. If it is, that might hint that DP would be mafia along with him, but at the same time it could just be reverse psychology, lol. I wonder if there was another message sent at some point?
Can't really think, off the top of my head, of who in Lost would fit the message sender role. Not gonna speculate on it either.
I'll keep the exact wording of the message to myself if whoever sent it wants to confirm their role.
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Post by Squeege on Mar 15, 2012 13:54:27 GMT -6
Re Message: I dunno. I think we should ignore it. It's possible it's from some sort of town investigator, but it could also be from scum trying to stir up some WIFOM. More than likely, the alignment of the message sender will become apparent later on. ~ Day 1 stuff: Whoa Ernie are you serious lol. gdi Monstr are you trying to kill us all. We came back to the Island and thats how you treat it? Vote: monstrGut +scum. How long has it been since the last mafia game? Too long. It's good be back! I don't think blras is mafia. The enthusiam is genuine, and I don't think scum-Blras would be enthusiastic like this. woah excuse me darth pokey how dare you Odd reaction to DP's vote. obligatory I'm here, lynch soup567 post. Gut +town. ikr, coming almost immediately after LMM's post I just found that really suspicious for some reason You... don't know why you found NPR's vote suspicious? Why no vote? *makes vague hand gestures, looks at who responds* I hope that we can try and commit to being a proactive town, rather than a purely reactive one that relies on night actions. If we have decent leads we need to put pressure on and not let the mafia get complacent. Also it totally wouldn't surprise me if the Island was a character. Esp. if Jacob's already dead o.o I'm glad you understand that, but the way to be proactive is to give opinions, make cases, get reactions, etc.. Not much happened at this point, but you could've at least given your opinion on NPR or something. also so far LMM is my strongest town read. Interesting. Why? Yea if vit shows up as mafia I wouldn't be surprised if npr is mafia too. Same goes other way around. DONT FORGET THIS POST IT MAY HELP YOU IN THE FUTURE. Insider knowledge much, pokey? What? Unless you're suggesting that DP, Vit, and NPR are all mafia and DP is bussing them, I don't understand what you're getting at. Yea I'm not liking Pokey so far this game, not because he's yelling VIT IS SCUM BAH SHE HATES CATS LYNCH HER, because he does that every game, but he seems a liiiiiittle too hmm what's the word. I dunno. He's sending off bad vibes and I have no idea how me and NPR are related in the slightest. I think he's just trying to cover his scum tracks for the future. Therefore I feel comfortable doing this: vote: Darth PokeyThis is a scummy OMGUS, especially coming right after XXStone's vote. She doesn't give any reasoning other than "bad vibes" and the NPR relation, but feels she needs to make a paragraph explaining it, to make it look like she has a lot of reasoning. And CO sorta brought this up, but the "feel comfortable doing this" is odd. It's too self-concious. And by the timing (people are starting to vote DP), it feels like she's comfortable voting because there's a wagon forming on DP, as opposed to feeling comfortable because she now thinks DP is scum. Im back from vacation. Looks like not much has changed except the usual DP/vit being scum. Right now i cant really make a decision for who to go for but most likely Kat, CO and wae are town. Cant really tell on the others since its only D1. He gives a quick opinion without too much thought, and gives his town reads freely. This post looks townish. DP's "defense" doesnt really convince me at all. This wagon seems pretty pro-town and to call it scum or just bad wagoning is pretty big struggling right there. Also just saying Vit is scum based off of how she plays on irc and on forum as a comparison isnt good enough for a lynch. Its only D1 and right now your just pushing suspicion to the people voting for you. UnvoteVote: DarthPokeyHe isn't really just pushing suspicion onto people voting him. He thought NPR was scummy for defending Vit (who he thinks is scum). After careful consideration here is what I see/think: At first I thought the Darth_Pokey wagon was a bit nonsensical and really unwarranted. HOWEVER Seeing as it's gained a bit of steam, and yet he still is only at 5/14... I have a strange feeling there aren't any mafiats on his wagon. Because if he were truly town, then the mafia would jump at that chance... would they not? Unless of course the mafia is leading this wagon, I think it's a good chance he may actually be mafia. Of course, if he's not... I'd be willing to hold the people who started this wagon under scrutiny. And seeing as this is the best thing I've got, and I am pro day one lynch... unvote vote:Darth_Pokey inb4 people jump at me for this. To those I say: Come at me bro. This vote was bad, but followed by So here's what NPR said. Points are italicized. I have some problems with this lynch. First: My vote on DP was to see if I could get a reaction out of him, but he's hardly flailing in my eyes. In fact, the more I read DP's responses, the more I think he's town. Which leads me to believe that the people who started the wagon might actually be mafia: i.e. vit and/or NPR. For one, NPR's vote on Darth_Pokey was TERRIBLE. EVERYONE calls EVERYONE else scum... ALL the time. That argument makes NO sense and has NO grounds to be a reason to vote someone. In fact, it's probably among the most forced of votes I've ever seen. Second: How does metagaming mean scum? I was unaware that another thing both town and mafia do meant someone was scum. Third: The way you worded the whole "I agree that some voters are anti-town" ... you said... are anti-town. You didn't say "probably" anti-town. Which would imply that you KNEW there were anti-town on his lynch. Maybe it's a weak scumslip, but with pokey actually giving me a town vibe I think it might have some merit. unvote vote: NPR No one really called monstrman out on his terrible vote, which implies this change was genuine. It could have been that he made the vote then realized it was bad, but it seems like he realizes the vote looks weird even in his original vote post. Monstr has been giving me relatively good vibes this game anyway, so I'm leaning town on him. As for NPR, like I said before, I've seen him use this same tactic in a previous game where his scumbuddy had some pressure on him (Actually I think I may have been mafia with him that game!) In fact his post sounds almost identical to the post I'm thinking of. I can't remember exactly what game it was from but I'll try to dig the post up later. Kat brought this up, and I dunno if you ever really answered it. Why NPR over Vit at this point? Okay pokey I would like a really detailed explanation of why you think me and NPR have any connection at all in this game. I have had a grand total of zero interactions with him so I still don't understand why if he flips scum, that means I probably will too. All I am getting from you pushing this point that has no basis is that you and him might be scum buddies and you think you can get yourself some security if he ends up getting himself killed by creating some kind of connection between us that doesn't exist and get me lynched. Is anyone else seeing a reason for this connection he's making because I really don't. Like I looked back at NPR's supposed defense of me but my name was never explicitly said and it looks like he was just telling pokey to stop being such a bossy pants. idk. NPR could've been chainsaw defending you, which means that he was attacking your attacker to get focus off of you. Obviously, that doesn't apply anymore since NPR is town, but I could see where DP was coming from, because NPR's original vote on DP didn't make much sense. This post feels slightly town though... hmmm.... I am, however, not comfortable with with MF's vote. He just kinda showed up and threw that down there. I don't know. Also pokey has not changed my mind, he's trying way too hard to condemn people. And while his argument there might seem pro-town in that he's trying to steer us in the "right" direction if he flips town, I'm not exactly convinced. Still pushing the DP lynch, but setting up an MF lynch after DP flips town. Out of everyone currently on DP's wagon, I feel most comfortable with XX, vit, and monstrman (good reasoning, good reasoning, and townie vibes respectively) and least comfortable with MF for blatant bandwagoning. Where is Vit's good reasoning? The best thing I saw was her saying that DP was trying to set up a scumbuddy relationship between NPR/Vit. Not enough talk from you, either. Saying the least indeed. Look if I were scum I wouldn't give two s***s about activity. I'd be like aw man we're so inactive... but let's not do anything about it heh heh heh. Bad selfmeta is bad. You're definitely savvy enough to feign that as scum, or to feel genuinely annoyed at it even as scum. Your solution isn't that good either; even if there are way too many inactives, they should be vigged, not lynched. It's too easy for scum to manipulate lynches on inactives, and no one is really held responsible for mislynches on them.
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Post by Nyan Kat on Mar 15, 2012 14:00:58 GMT -6
The reason that LMM was my strongest town read at the time was that he was putting forth a lot of effort and providing reads- the last few games I played with him, he was anti-town and did nothing but flavor talk the whole time.
I'll reread day 1 later and link what I thought was good reasoning from vit.
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Post by vitritaime on Mar 15, 2012 15:24:57 GMT -6
All of this is directed at squeege :
Okay let me rephrase what I said. I didn't blindly follow pokey in to a lynch. NPR's reactions and ridiculous claim were the reasons I voted for him. Pokey was, in my eyes, one of the big pushers of his lynch though. I think people jumped on it and NPR flipped town. That was why I decided I was putting my vote on him. I have yet had time to look back for other suspicions but I was starting of this day with a vote on Pokey because I was already iffy about him and the NPR lynch just put the icing on the cake.
lmao that was not an odd reaction to DP's vote D1 when he ALWAYS votes me day one. Please.
I voted for DP because he was insisting on pushing the fact that NPR and I were related and we weren't. It seemed very scummy to me and I didn't vote because there was a wagon, I voted because I was getting scum vibes from him. That post was not OMGUS in the slightest because I generally don't take Pokey seriously when he votes for me D1. And why is my word choice such a big deal? I am fairly positive I have used the word "comfortable" when putting a vote on someone before I'm not understanding why that seems scummy.
I was not the only one uncomfortable with MF's vote because it seemed like he showed up and voted for the person who looked most likely to be lynched so I wasn't setting anything up when I mentioned that his vote was weird. I even laid off him the next day, in hopes that he would post more so I could get a better read but that never happened.
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Still don't have enough time for a read-through post but I do want to point out that the people who are obviously lurking and getting away with it are making me nervous and worth looking into [ie. Doc and all those one posters]
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Post by DrShlub on Mar 15, 2012 17:51:31 GMT -6
I think that if we should look anywhere on the NPR bandwagon for potential mafia members it should be more to the end, rather than the beginning. At the beginning of the lynch line we have people that (accurately IMO) said that he was acting scummy, while at the end we have people who decided to ignore his claims of being the doctor/protector. I think it was a mistake on NPR's part to reveal the protector aspect of his role because that was a fairly out there kind of mechanic and sounded like a 'OMG dun lynch or loose' desperation tactic, but without someone counter-claiming doctor and a few more hours left on the clock there was little reason to hammer so quickly. True we could have lost out doctor this night had he claimed, and true they could have stolen the Jack claim from our janitored friend, but more care should have been taken and a little more time should have been given before someone hammered, which I would imagine was the result of some impatient mafiosi. Thus, J'acquse! Vote: Kirawillwin Whilst DP declared his disbelief in NPR's roleclaim, he did it with reasoning behind it, whilst Kira, a man who had remained almost entirely silent, with a total of three posts in two days, but active enough to have been posting in other topics, jumped in to cast the death blow with barely a sentence of backing. FoS: Jamis Fos: LMM FoS: Capcommaster More of a ceremonious thing than an actual declaration of suspicion, just to remember the final few voters.
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Post by waehofen on Mar 15, 2012 20:16:27 GMT -6
<3 you guys a) Waluigi > Wario > "Oh Daisy!" >> what Luigi used to be > Mario > what Luigi is in this day and age of "Mario & Luigi 3" >>>> the actual character Daisy b) Did you guys notice how Squeege just said Looking back on some of the meta-based arguments from D1 and D2, I just thought this was a nice touch. c) So Meow is Serial Killer once again, eh? Well, at least those hate the mafia, too. (kidding, of course. don't come after me!) d) Kat may be that mafiat that we have to catch on D5 after considerable hardship. I could see it happening but right now it's just not the best lead on the table IMO. I was going to make a more "serious" post but honestly...so little of the D3 discussion has been directed at me (like one or two comments) that there isn't much to respond to. Why did I find NPR's D1 vote suspicious? Well it was something about how LMM was taking pressure off vit right before he made it. It seemed like he was either setting up NPR's post, or NPR was just using it as setup for his post. tl;dr I'm really really surprised NPR was town And why no vote? idk, why do I never vote the people I say I'm suspicious of D1? My thoughts: haven't seen enough out of WP, Doc, SMAP, kira, CP, or wave; can't remember if I've seen enough of robbie, XX Stone, gg, or capcom. Slight misgivings about Kat and monstr; at this point pretty curious about vit and DP (by the way, D2 I said that I thought at least one of {NPR, MF, and vit} was mafia. Look at how that went). I would love to see Meow be active and post like a boss. Strongest town read might be CO because he was cool D2 but DP would be up there if not for NPR's lynch going south. Jamis is always mafia. Shlub and LMM is a cool guy, and I don't even blrasmu. I think I just entirely failed to mention commonyoshi, hmm Somehow it ended up that my strongest, surest mafia leads were PRs. I don't really know how this occurred but now I'm going to have to think about whom to vote.
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Post by XX Stone on Mar 16, 2012 11:39:17 GMT -6
gah everyone has different leads with good logic backing them up
Regarding the DarthPokey and the message that Captain Oblivious got last night, I think the only thing that we can pull from it is that there's a message-sender in the game. I'd also have to agree with CO's later post (which takes too much effort to quote) saying that the message could have come from literally anyone.
I don't think Squeege is mafia, he's putting waaaay too much effort into reading into things. I was suspicious at first with the "DP's not mafia guys" thing he posted at first, but he turned around after that.
Same thing for vitritaime really, she's not just going along with voting whoever is the likely lynch target - well, she is, but she's also going out of her way to bring attention to Squeege. I don't think you should push for a squeege lynch though, that's not gonna happen and would only end badly for yourself.
And DrShlub's vote on kirawillwin - I'm all for getting the inactives out of the way, but we have a pretty decent lead here, I think - DarthPokey. His "now would be the perfect time for the mafia to lynch me" is an obvious attempt to shake people off of him.
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Post by monstrman on Mar 16, 2012 11:44:42 GMT -6
Okay I'll buy that squeege is town. I feel pretty confident about it and I like that he's looking. Or at least it seems like he's looking. unvote[/color] But this I was about to do the same thing Kat vote: Darth PokeyI don't know how NPR was telling the truth but oh my god. [/color] You die now, scum.[/quote] Totally implies a false dichotomy. DP could still be town it's not one or the other. I don't blame kira for being the last vote, and he ALWAYS says nothing. I think that doesn't have any bearing on his alignment and even if he were scum, I don't want to risk the mislynch, especially after losing a "protector" (I still really don't like that role, btw) I really didn't like blrasmu's vote on NPR. Also he'd said nothing all game. I'm also a little suspicious of capcom and XXstone, as I said before they'd been giving me weird vibes. Funny how people just seemed to ignore that I said that. I also don't like how commonyoshi barks about inactives, but he himself made all of what... seven posts? One of which being a vote on NPR and he wasn't there AT ALL after NPR's ridiculous claim. vote:Blrasmu[/color] FoS: CapcomMaster, XXStone, CommonyoshiTownie Reads: Waehofen, Squeege Leaning Town: DP, LMM, CO, vit Everyone else is either null, hasn't posted enough or on my suspicion list.
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Post by monstrman on Mar 16, 2012 11:48:20 GMT -6
Also: we can DEFINITELY dismiss the possibility of two mafias.
That kill was either A: Dead vigilante
or B: If we find another two dead tomorrow, serial killer.
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Post by Nyan Kat on Mar 16, 2012 12:43:38 GMT -6
Monstrman, I would have thought dp was scum either way. I'm at work right now but will later link to posts where I say this. I know this was back when we were entertaining the two-mafia theory, but with a town npr I'm still leaning dp-scum.
That post from xx reads like he knows squeege is town, though. unvote vote: xx stone fos: darthpokey
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Post by robbiecon on Mar 16, 2012 12:51:43 GMT -6
So, vit, it looks like my wall of text yesterday wasn't as useless as you made it out to be. Perhaps had you not blown it off, people would have paid more attention to it. In addition, voting for Darth Pokey so quickly today, immediately after Kat.
Vote: vitritaime
From what I can gather from what NPR said yesterday, he attempted to make someone else a protector, but it failed. So I'm guessing there are no more protectors. He probably had to find one of the other chosen ones. How much of a role would the Protector have? Well, they'd probably be the one thing standing in the way of the man in black, although I don't know how their connection would work.
DrShlub makes a valid point, that we should look more towards the end of those who voted for NPR. Early voters just felt something was out, the later people had more information, but still came to the same conclusion.
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