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Post by Nyan Kat on Oct 1, 2012 20:44:52 GMT -6
Ernie, what do you think of monstrman? I personally am reserving judgement at this time, he's pretty hard for me to read.
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Post by Erniewan on Oct 1, 2012 21:05:19 GMT -6
Hmm, it's hard to tell. On one hand, he's really active and trying to be helpful; he didn't really do that much when I was scum with him in Hogan's. On the other hand, he's been posting a lot of questions that seem to be revealing more about others than himself. I'd like to know what he's learned from his questions so far.
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Post by Nyan Kat on Oct 1, 2012 21:43:42 GMT -6
well...in Hogan's...he was in a hydra with MF...and MF never does anything.
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Post by fatalfiend37 on Oct 1, 2012 21:58:26 GMT -6
What is your opinion of Ernie and VGA? Well Ernie was a pretty cool dude who hosted some mafia games, idk who VGA is.
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Post by Nyan Kat on Oct 1, 2012 22:09:29 GMT -6
In this game, what are your reads on them?
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Post by softguitar on Oct 1, 2012 22:29:30 GMT -6
I'm gonna answer questions later after work.
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Post by fatalfiend37 on Oct 1, 2012 22:42:58 GMT -6
Well Ernie seems to be reasoning things out, which is good. I'm leaning more towards him being town. VGA seems a little fishy to me by his posts but it's too early to tell much.
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Post by monstrman on Oct 1, 2012 23:22:37 GMT -6
Well... so far I've kind of felt around and I'm trying to grasp a decent feel for who I can and cannot trust, based on my own observations and the observations of others. It seems like people are mostly putting Kat in their townie column, so for now I think I can safely say I am leaning town on kat. One thing that gave me slight reservation was this post: Soft has been here when people are asking her questions and responding well, so I suppose I have a slight town lean on her. Everyone else is fairly null right now, and I'll be happy to explain any specific null read if asked. I am uncertain as to why he had a resounding Town on Soft for merely answering questions, when other people had done the same. In fact, I had soft at a resounding null, ALONG with GG until the both of them specifically stated they trusted each other as noted here: I have a townie vibe with GG at the moment since his questions are thorough and well-thought. His ideas also seem very clear. Something about the way they went about it didn't sit right with me, and I'm not sure if I'm the only one, but I find this post to be strangely awkward: He said "maybe town, maybe not", then later he said "town". So I'm not too sure if he's town, but he doesn't seem that scummy since he's answering questions in an early stage, even though they're vague. So I don't have a real good read on him yet (null), and his "maybe" thing (indie-ish). I'd think he'd pull off a good indie. First off, the first line is parroting Erniewan, who was the first to bring up that VGA could be indie. Admittedly, it is definitely a possibility, but for her to just up and confirm it like that... it isn't... quite... right. It was because of that post that I was originally considering Soft and Ernie to be scumpartners, but I really at this point can't say for certain that I trust and/or distrust ernie. I really don't have any sort of lead that way, which is why I've been asking people for their reads of ernie. So far, a resounding null, which is telling neither way. Still, I find this Soft/GG thing interesting to say the least. I guess that's all I have for now. I expect everyone to answer my previous questions.
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Post by NPR on Oct 1, 2012 23:49:59 GMT -6
Ok guys I'm back for good. Before I abuse the hell out of the multiquote function, I have to say that I'm highly disappointed that the majority of the posts are made by a Monstrman/VGA/Kat trio. Yes, I've been super inactive too, but I had work, rearranging my room, and no cpu access. I'm back for good though! Excuse how not massive this post is, I just skimmed over everything because late. Okay... let's start this up then.
Erniewan... what do you think of Kat?
Softguitar, what is your opinion of me?
NPR, you now have a roleblock. Who are you targetting?
VGA: Are you scum this game? I' m not quite sure yet. I had forgotten the majority of the mechanics of this game when I started reading the game just now, so I wasn't even aware I had a roleblock OK, are you not not not unscum? I disapprove of this post, being silly to try and get your point across. Because I'm not gonna tell him my alignment D1. I honestly don't see this as scummy. I think that it was just VGA being VGA. As of now, I have a null read on him In fact, I'm going to ask everyone right now to give me a read on VGA. See previous quote. I currently have null reads on everybody now, but it's only D1 Yeah, content matters more than actual number of posts. Just b/c I don't feel like taking charge doesn't mean I'm not Town.
I have a question(s) for everyone though: a) Do you think we should get a lynch today? b) In your opinion, what's the best way to get a lynch on Day 1? c) What are you going to do in order to point us in the right direction?
This is all very general though, and I'm just hoping to get some opinions, motives, and direction. If you have more specific reads (who you trust and don't trust), that would be helpful as well, but we haven't quite heard much from everyone yet. 1) Yes, but not to lynch just to lynch. 2) Generally look for people who are contributing the least/look for those who are pretending to be contributing a lot, but aren't. Too bad only half of us have posted (It feels like half of us anyway) 3) Scum hunt
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Post by Nyan Kat on Oct 1, 2012 23:53:39 GMT -6
ooh, didn't like that post. First off, you have me as town...because you're sheeping others' reads? Right after you say that you're making your own observations?
Yes, soft's "null-indie" discussion was weird, which is why I asked her about it. Her response is null, though.
Also a couple things you're calling out have come up in the past with all-town parties, specifically: 1. Soft/Ernie sheeping each other. I called them out on this in TT Mafia (sorta), and they explained that because they're dating they just tend to do that. I'm also guilty of this re: Avengers. So really, that's null. 2. Soft/GG implicitly trusting each other. GG did the same thing in Avengers because he was malick's Telepath. Also, that one game on MS where you thought that one player was scum for an implicit town read, turns out she had that read because she was Neighborized. Also scum generally wouldn't make such blatant I TRUST YEW posts (most of the time.) FoS: monstrman may turn into a vote; I think I just got ninja'd
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Post by Nyan Kat on Oct 1, 2012 23:57:06 GMT -6
re: NPR You're in Pacific time. It's like, coming up on 11 where you are. That's not late, wussy. Evades roleblock question with joke pfft. (this is null, but still totally lame of you.)
That post's not quite so bad as 127 and is really just lazy, so we'll see. I was really hoping to have more to work with!
Oh and uh Unvote: [/color] Vote: monstrman[/color]
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Post by NPR on Oct 1, 2012 23:59:31 GMT -6
I've worked early and late hours for the past 3 days, I can't help it :/ You'll have more to work with from a well rested NPR :3
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Post by Nyan Kat on Oct 2, 2012 0:01:06 GMT -6
oh ok well you people are lucky I'm speaking English right now rabble rabble uphill both ways in the snow
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Post by NPR on Oct 2, 2012 0:02:55 GMT -6
Also, on the roleblock: I don't just want to use it to use it, I want to be able to gauge everyone, deciding who to use it on (key wrod is everyone)
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Post by Nyan Kat on Oct 2, 2012 0:13:01 GMT -6
thank you for your wrods
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Post by Squeege on Oct 2, 2012 0:18:02 GMT -6
"Well, I see you all have already gotten started".
Everyone stops squabbling for a moment to look up at the strange disembodied voice. From the tall ceiling, right through the chandler, you see a bright ball of light.
"Apologies for being late, I was... preoccupied. Welcome to Purgatory everyone."
Purgatory? But if this is Purgatory, then that means...
"Yes, you all are dead. Don't worry though, it's not so bad. Your bodies are decayed, but your souls are intact. And assuming you can pass this test, you'll be admitted back into the material world.
Test?
"As you have already surmised, there are some here that did not lead good lives. Thieves, criminals, crooks... in other words, scum. They cannot be allowed to be reincarnated. You must do all you can to eliminate them."
The ball of light ascends back into the ceiling leaving you back to your bickering. Test, eh? Hopefully this won't be too difficult....
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Vote Count 1
Monstrman (1) - Nyan Kat vgaddict (1) - monstrman[/i]
With 12 Alive, it's still 7 to lynch
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Post by monstrman on Oct 2, 2012 0:20:47 GMT -6
lol Kat you can't read me at all just saiyan goku. Though I can say I'm pretty sure you're town, especially now.
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Post by Nyan Kat on Oct 2, 2012 0:24:07 GMT -6
ewwww, buddying. gross.
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Post by monstrman on Oct 2, 2012 0:25:48 GMT -6
Oh, and also yes I am going to sheep a town read on you, because I believe at least one of the mafiats to be among the actives, and if ALL of the people are giving you a town read, I can GUARANTEE one of them is doing it because they already know you're town.
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Post by monstrman on Oct 2, 2012 0:26:30 GMT -6
LOLBUDDYING hahaha yeah that's what I'm doing. Go ahead keep your vote if it makes you feel better.
Everyone else should answer my questions though.
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Post by The Game Guy on Oct 2, 2012 4:49:54 GMT -6
Actually, it isn't all too weird from my perspective to have soft as a town for doing stuff others have done. Kat and Ernie are pretty much always active, no matter what alignment they might be, so it isn't really a tell for them. Likewise for you, Monstr, though I've already said that. Soft, on the other hand, I have seen not be that active as scum, so to me it is sort of a tell.
Also, I'm pretty sure no one has said they think Kat is town before you Monstr, so I don't know where you got that statement from.
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Post by XX Stone on Oct 2, 2012 8:45:13 GMT -6
And XX stone comes in only not to post. Tell me XX, what is your opinion of Ernie and VGA? My opinion is that at this point, they're trying to fit in, like both the mafia and the town should try to do. VGA didn't want to give away his alignment at this point in the game (I sort of agree with not giving away information about yourself) but then switched it after you pressed him. I think he was just trying to not draw suspicion to himself, which backfired. Erniewan's doing what he usually does, being neutral while still maintaining an active presence in the game. As for you monstrman, you are the most "active" person so far, but you're not making any friends by jumping out at everybody. Myself included. Nyan Kat, you don't go after the most active person on day 1. It's like broadcasting that you want him out of the game. I don't see the logic behind your vote, either. Not getting much of a read on anyone so far, and I'm not yet willing to vote.
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Post by monstrman on Oct 2, 2012 9:58:25 GMT -6
I don't play mafia to make friends.
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Post by monstrman on Oct 2, 2012 9:58:55 GMT -6
Also GG, I dunno I swear I saw some people say she was leaning town. I GUESS I JUST IMAGINED IT
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Post by monstrman on Oct 2, 2012 10:08:44 GMT -6
Would like to see more posting from:
8. DarthPokey 11. Blrasmu
VGA and Ernie, I would like to hear your thoughts on the current situation when you have the time.
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Post by monstrman on Oct 2, 2012 10:09:16 GMT -6
Also: XX what is your opinion of GG?
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Post by Nyan Kat on Oct 2, 2012 10:25:07 GMT -6
lol, I go after the most active person if I think they're scum, and I think monstrman is scum.
Rebuttal incoming.
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Post by Nyan Kat on Oct 2, 2012 10:39:44 GMT -6
Let's look at the very few people who have posted more than five times, shall we? monstrman (45): Well, you're the one I'm calling out. And that's a lot of posts to go through before lunch okay Kat (26): Well, I know I'm town. VGA (22): The only thing VGA has said to or about me is to ask me a question and then amend it because I ninja'd him. Ernie (14): stated here that " monstrman: Not enough to make a judgment yet, but she seems on the right track." Which I take to mean null-town. Ok, cool, there's one[/color] person with a town lean. GG (12): Said basically what I'm saying in more words right now. soft (7): Said "Kat is just...Kat" which I'm taking to mean null read. fatal (6): Has made no mention of me. NPR (6): Notes that i'm active and that he has null reads on everybody. So, yes, there was one lean-town on me, but one person is hardly the whole town. Getting facts wrong is a scumtell, especially with you, monstrman. I know that you use that as a strategy when you're scum. HOWEVER, A POINT IN YOUR FAVOR: When you're scum, you refuse to redact things that you get wrong (and/or blow them off). Here, looks like a partial redactment. I'm not ready to remove my vote, though. I don't like how XX is basically saying not to do something ballsy this early because it'll bring attention to you....that's what you would want to not do as scum. Town shouldn't gaf about that, because they're town! FoS: XX Stone
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Post by blrasmu on Oct 2, 2012 10:46:03 GMT -6
Okay, now I'm really here, and I've caught up. Ernie asked some question about day 1 lynches, and I'm in favor of lynching on day 1. It gets the game started off on the right foot, and gives the town some information.
The all important question is who right now.
Through today, monstr has been asking questions, keeping activity up. This is pretty unscum behavior. Could he be scum? Yes. But voting off activity early is bad idea.
Which brings me to Nyan kat, who voted for monstr, but she has a rebuttal pending, and I want to here that first.
So, FoS: Nyan Kat.
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Post by blrasmu on Oct 2, 2012 10:46:23 GMT -6
And there it is.
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