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Post by monstrman on Sept 17, 2012 19:38:02 GMT -6
Caleton, TML, Hellfire. One of these, at least one, I would guess is mafia. It could be none of them are, and it seems that way, but I am still taking note of what you do. Elaborate, and explain why you had to undermine your own opinion by saying "it could be none of them are and it seems that way" FoS: Impereld
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Post by monstrman on Sept 17, 2012 19:42:19 GMT -6
Anyway, down to business, no kills last night, for the second time. I think EP may be the issue, although I suppose one of the possibilities mentioned above could be the cause (protect, roleblock). I get an odd vibe from this, as if he knows EP is the issue. IDK just the way he words it. If this is true, then Robbiecon could likely be an inactive mafiat, as well as all the other people posting without content/not posting (Kira, VGA, Darth_Pokey, etc if I missed any)
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Post by Nyan Kat on Sept 17, 2012 19:56:06 GMT -6
I zapped somebody yesterday. If Robbie knows that's true, the person I zapped could also be mafia.
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Post by vgaddict on Sept 17, 2012 20:02:16 GMT -6
^ Do tell.
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Post by vgaddict on Sept 17, 2012 21:26:59 GMT -6
Wait, what do you mean by, "If Robbie knows that's true"?
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Post by Nyan Kat on Sept 17, 2012 22:37:15 GMT -6
If robbie knows that there was no kill due to lack of EP. However, this is a very weak correlation and as such, I won't be claiming my targets just yet. If there's a stronger case on this person, then I will.
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Post by Erniewan on Sept 17, 2012 23:10:51 GMT -6
Vote Count:Voted | # | Voters | vgaddict | 2 | Kat, malick | Caleton | 1 | TML | malick | 1 | vgaddict |
No vote (5): Darthpokey, Hellfire, kirawillwin, impereld, robbiecon, Caleton With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Day 5 ends on Thursday, September 20th @ 7:00 pm (CST).
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Post by impereld on Sept 18, 2012 3:34:16 GMT -6
monstr: I made a miscalculation. I thought that there wasn't enough people in the game for one of them not to be mafia, but looking back, it's entirely possible that, say, Kira, Darth Pokey, Robbie and vga are mafia. I was saying that's it's likely that simply due to the amount of people that one is mafia, but looking back, that's wrong.
Also, kira hasn't logged in for a few days. I'm not going to vote him yet, but if he doesn't come back in soon, I'll be voting him.
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Post by vgaddict on Sept 18, 2012 12:07:23 GMT -6
So, apparently, Kat has Armor AND a zapping ability.
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Post by Nyan Kat on Sept 18, 2012 12:08:58 GMT -6
I claimed that on Day 2. plz2notattempttodiscreditwhathasdonebeenclaimedkthxbai
impereld, that's an inactivity vote, which at this point in the game is dumb. FoS: impereld[/color]
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Post by vgaddict on Sept 18, 2012 12:14:19 GMT -6
What makes you say Linnet was town?
To me, it sounds like the Doppelganger is kind of like a busdriver.
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Post by monstrman on Sept 18, 2012 14:06:10 GMT -6
kat you should give me EP
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Post by robbiecon on Sept 18, 2012 14:46:51 GMT -6
Because there is so much confusion about the Doppelganger, here is the official description of the role from the Mafia roles thread on this site:
"Doppelganger - You can replicate another player at night, killing them and stealing their role (but not team). The player will show up as a Doppelganger on death."
Linnet was mafia, end of story.
In relation to my lack of EP => no mafia kill, I also brought up this theory on D2, after no kill on N1. Take from that what you will.
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Post by monstrman on Sept 18, 2012 14:59:47 GMT -6
And now you are trying really hard to convince us that linnet was mafia. I dunno, something isn't sitting right here with me...
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Post by Nyan Kat on Sept 18, 2012 15:31:11 GMT -6
Nope. The item I got yesterday allowed me to check the alignment of a corpse with 99% accuracy. I was told that Linnet was town. Therefore, it is highly unlikely that she wasn't.
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Post by vgaddict on Sept 18, 2012 16:44:03 GMT -6
Wait, the item you got yesterday allowed you to cop? DAMN, now I feel even worse about not getting it.
I interpret the Doppelganger role as meaning the VICTIM of the Doppelganger's kill shows up as Doppelganger. And since Kat's item (That's supposedly 99% accurate) revealed Linnet as town, I'm going to say Linnet was town.
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Post by robbiecon on Sept 18, 2012 16:50:40 GMT -6
Ok, Kat, on rereading the definition I posted, that actually makes sense.
Doppelganger kills player, steals their role, and the victim shows up as being scum.
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Post by robbiecon on Sept 18, 2012 17:00:03 GMT -6
Also, as an extension to the above, may I suggest that blrasmu had been the Doppelganger, and therefore was in fact mafia?
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Post by vgaddict on Sept 18, 2012 17:01:14 GMT -6
Then why has he/she only killed once? And what if we lynch the Doppelganger after it kills a townie? Will it turn up as a townie?
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Post by robbiecon on Sept 18, 2012 17:13:00 GMT -6
Doppelganger is a once off move from my understanding. It takes over the victim's role, and remains that way, and presumably flips as this town role when killed. It's moreso a way to confuse the town, and make connections between players a little tougher to make.
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Post by Nyan Kat on Sept 18, 2012 18:03:27 GMT -6
Well....shit. I almost hope he wasn't the doppelganger, because I'm preeeeetty sure that item came from Squeege, who is now dead. So we won't be seeing any more corpse copping unless we're really, really lucky.
I'd imagine the Doppelganger either needs a duckton of EP, or it's an x-shot move. Which, if it's the former, it probably wasn't blrasmu since he didn't post a whole lot...
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Post by Caleton on Sept 18, 2012 20:33:52 GMT -6
Nyan Kat, if you got this item, why didn't you tell us you used it as soon as you used it? What gain did you have to tell us you were 99% sure, and then say it was an item. Also this item seems oddly specific... I guess if Linnet and Blras were both role hidden that would make sense. But it seems sketchy...
Oh, and I voted kirawillwin earlier, but maybe since i did it bold instead of red it didn't show up.. Vote: vote: kirawillwin[/color] .
Ok, I'm about to lay down some serious business so bare with me. I have a theory. My night action/item from last night gave me something very incriminating on kirawillwin. I was about to reveal what that is, I even wrote it all up, but I just realized that if I did, kira could lie and try to discredit it. So, this may just sound like role-fishing, but I would really like kira to tell me who he targeted night 1 and night 2.
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Post by Nyan Kat on Sept 18, 2012 20:37:26 GMT -6
I did; I said at the beginning of the day that Linnet was town. People continued to postulate on the Linnetscum theory which I have been told is incorrect.
Has kira even been on lately? I'm willing to listen to this theory...
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Post by Caleton on Sept 19, 2012 1:38:34 GMT -6
Oh... I didn't notice that... At the time it seemed random so I guess I just glossed over it.. nevermind...
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Post by Caleton on Sept 19, 2012 15:37:46 GMT -6
Really, no one's posted since then? The day ends tomorrow, what are we planning on doing if we stop talking....
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Post by Nyan Kat on Sept 19, 2012 16:14:29 GMT -6
I dunno. I'm all over the map and I just don't have the time to make a case, but I could do it tomorrow (I have a test first thing but after that I should be okay)...
Ernie, is there any way we could get an extension?
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Post by Erniewan on Sept 19, 2012 17:53:02 GMT -6
If enough people PM me that they would like an extension, I'll give one.
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Post by kirawillwin on Sept 19, 2012 21:00:20 GMT -6
Okay so I've been gone for a while, I'll post a suspicion list soon, I haven't had time to work on it though. As for who I targeted, Night 1 myself and Night 2 I targeted linnet, however based of monstr's bus driving I guess I targeted squege?
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Post by The Missing Link on Sept 20, 2012 1:11:27 GMT -6
Ugh... this has been an abominable week for getting anything done. I'm working extra hours at work (this is the last week, yay!), but I've gotten home pretty tired and absolutely unmotivated most nights, so I've barely had the chance to pay attention this week. Sorry about this. I'm just sleepy. [/color] Talk about your targeting Hellfire.[/quote] ....... i'll come back to you. Because this deserves coming back to. So then I kinda just took it for granted that there's 4 left. And if there's only 4 left, then a mislynch today and a mafia kill tonight will leave us with 4 mafia and 8 total. Meaning they win.. Though i guess we shouldn't assume there's only 4 left, i don't think its an unreasonable assumption. Not really lynch-worthy. My playstyle is, as they say in politics, vote early and vote often. When I see something fishy, I don't dilly dally and wait around for explanations. I put a stake in the mud and then see where it goes. And if I'm wrong? Then I recant, unvote, and wear cream pie all over my face. Me putting you on the spot was an attempt to solidify things one way or the other. I'm still rubbing my chin over what you said (not just the above quote but everything). I had you pegged Town before this, and while I'm second-guessing myself at the moment, I'm also thinking that there's a far greater chance that you're Town than some other people that have been pinging my radar. Honestly, I really don't want to think you're not Town. So for now, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt. Unvote: Caleton^ That's what happened. Sorry. Now... let's address this. Because honestly, what the heck is going on, Vgaddict? I ask you to vote for someone -- and there was clear subtext in there asking you to vote for someone you thought was Mafia -- and immediately you jump all over Malick of all people? And then you don't bother to even really defend your vote? You said you needed to step up your game. So let's try this again. Who do you find suspicious and why? Give me your #1 and #2 answer. Because there's almost guaranteed at least two Mafia out there. Caleton, TML, Hellfire. One of these, at least one, I would guess is mafia. It could be none of them are, and it seems that way, but I am still taking note of what you do. Elaborate, and explain why you had to undermine your own opinion by saying "it could be none of them are and it seems that way" FoS: ImpereldI think I'm very much in agreement with this. It does sound very wishy washy all in all. It has that vague ring of "Please don't lynch me if I'm wrong." Also, as an extension to the above, may I suggest that blrasmu had been the Doppelganger, and therefore was in fact mafia? Hmmm, the thought is possible. Though all in all, I'm not a fan of roles that out and out lie about alignments after death. They are one of the few things I refuse to put into my game. I feel like it cheapens the strategy of the game. Though that said, if Linnet is Town as Kat says... then anyone at this point who gets flipped could be wrong... even though any single person is unlikely to be flipped incorrectly. If we're going to go that route, then I'd rather (as a betting man) take all of the flips at their face value and not automatically assume that a specific one is flipped wrong. Makes me wish we had another one of those items around to check it out with; then again, if there was an item, I'd never get it because I'm at work every single time an item comes out. Okay so I've been gone for a while, I'll post a suspicion list soon, I haven't had time to work on it though. As for who I targeted, Night 1 myself and Night 2 I targeted linnet, however based of monstr's bus driving I guess I targeted squege? Really? It takes that long to come up with a trust list? I'm running low on sleep, and yet still I'm responding to posts and doing what I can to keep up. I have little sympathy for anyone who makes multiple posts about trying to catch up with the times and yet fails to do so (even more so if they post about it). Ok, I'm about to lay down some serious business so bare with me. I have a theory. My night action/item from last night gave me something very incriminating on kirawillwin. I was about to reveal what that is, I even wrote it all up, but I just realized that if I did, kira could lie and try to discredit it. So, this may just sound like role-fishing, but I would really like kira to tell me who he targeted night 1 and night 2. Color me curious, but I'd love to know what you think about Kira's answers. It definitely affects what I'll be thinking... because honestly... if I had to vote for someone, it'd be a tossup between kira and VGA. I'm going to vote with my gut for now. Vote: VGAddictFoS: KirawillwinI'm going to try to log back in before the deadline tomorrow if I get a chance while at work to read over things. Unfortunately, with my work schedule this week, there's no guarantee. :/
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Post by Erniewan on Sept 20, 2012 7:14:44 GMT -6
Vote Count:Voted | # | Voters | vgaddict | 3 | Kat, malick, TML | Caleton | 0 | TML | malick | 1 | vgaddict | kirawillwin | 1 | Caleton |
No vote (5): Darthpokey, Hellfire, kirawillwin, impereld, robbiecon With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.
I didn't get many PMs, but I'll give a small extension of 24 hours anyways. Make good use of it! Day 5 ends on Friday, September 21st @ 7:00 pm (CST).
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