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Post by robbiecon on Sept 16, 2012 14:00:51 GMT -6
Welcome to the game Darth Pokey!
Anyway, down to business, no kills last night, for the second time. I think EP may be the issue, although I suppose one of the possibilities mentioned above could be the cause (protect, roleblock).
For Malick, surely you're role isn't that spontaneous that you're not quite sure what you are? So plain and simple, are you a roleblocker? Yes or no? I've been confused by much of your posts.
As for vgaddict, isn't he usually pretty quiet? And if he has been having laptop issues, fair enough.
Kat, question for you. I haven't picked up an item myself. Does yours from today give extra EP? I just want to know to guess how useful items are in general.
Caleton, both of us have been on bad bandwagons, what makes you think this is any different?
I'll address some more people later or likely tomorrow.
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Post by Nyan Kat on Sept 16, 2012 16:06:33 GMT -6
I will say that one of the items I have received grants EP
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Post by vgaddict on Sept 16, 2012 16:34:29 GMT -6
The item I got yesterday gives extra EP too.
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Post by Nyan Kat on Sept 16, 2012 16:37:16 GMT -6
Yes let's all out our items so the mafia knows who to pick off.
This is sarcasm btw
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Post by robbiecon on Sept 16, 2012 17:57:02 GMT -6
Thanks Kat (and indeed vga). That's exactly what I wanted to know. If items are capable of doing things other than just providing EP, it may explain no kills last night.
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Post by malick2037 on Sept 16, 2012 17:57:47 GMT -6
@robbie no I am not. I use actions that I am unaware of unless I get a message back. I.E. When I saw N.P.R. target monstrman.
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Post by robbiecon on Sept 16, 2012 18:05:09 GMT -6
Thanks Malick, I trut you anyway, along with TML and Kat. Everyone else I'm not so sure of yet. And of course you all know my theory of replacements!
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Post by Nyan Kat on Sept 16, 2012 18:09:10 GMT -6
This is where I point out that squeege was town.
Why do you trust tml?
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Post by robbiecon on Sept 16, 2012 18:15:06 GMT -6
That's a valid point Kat. And for that reason I will not pursue a Darth Pokey lynch today, without outstanding evidence to the contrary.
As for TML, I do not believe any mafia member would be willing to put as much work or depth into their posts as we saw from TML.
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Post by monstrman on Sept 16, 2012 18:23:09 GMT -6
Our best course of action is to lynch me.
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Post by Nyan Kat on Sept 16, 2012 18:27:08 GMT -6
Have you not played with TML as mafia before? Or me for that matter? Point is, he's one of those that puts a lot of wffort in regardless of alignment.
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Post by robbiecon on Sept 16, 2012 18:31:34 GMT -6
Nope, I don't think I've been in all that many games with TML. The key point is, mafia, even if they are posting plenty, don't tend to say very much. TML made some perfectly valid point
As for yourself, I'm used to you being a frequent poster, and I get the feeling you are genuinely trying to get something to happen, which is more than I can say for most.
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Post by Nyan Kat on Sept 16, 2012 18:39:07 GMT -6
hmm. I asked because I thought you two might have been scumrades before. I can think of a few others that put in a lot of effort when they're mafia; tml is definitely one of those. Personally, I'm still not sold on him as town yet.
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Post by Caleton on Sept 16, 2012 20:51:47 GMT -6
Yeah. I agree on TML. He's been really active and insightful, but with really experienced players like him , you can't really rely on that. Also im thinking that we have a mostly inactive mafia, but i think we have at least one active mafioso. So in terms of consistently actives, theres just nyan kat, malick, TML, and hellfire, (and me ) So cuz i think the first two are town, that just leaves tml and hellfire. Also, robbiecon got active today, but he was inactive the last couple days so im not counting him.
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Post by The Missing Link on Sept 17, 2012 0:30:57 GMT -6
Hate to say it guys, but we need to step it up. Yes, that includes me. Hey everybody! Let's step it up! Let's be more active! Even I need to be more active! This is going to be great! We can catch Mafia this w--zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. so I think if we mislynch today. Then unless for some strange reason the mafia doesn't kill again tonight. Town loses. So guys, be more active... seriously. Out of curiosity, Sir Caleton, what leads you to that conclusion. I'm... very confused by this deduction. I concur with this to a degree. I'm generally about voting first and asking questions as we go. I don't know if that means... we need to be all gangbang on a specific someone within the first... little bit (then again, I am saying this, what, three days into the day? Sheesh), but... so it goes. ffr I don't trust caleton as far as I can throw him. this is mostly gut. Curiosity begs me to poke at this statement. Even when a sentiment is "mostly gut", it still has to be grounded somehow in reality. What's really driving this sense, Kat? Sorry, had trouble with my laptop, so I got a desktop. Whooooo activity ZOMG this is the bestest thing zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz FoS: vgaddictThis is not the stepping up you've been clammoring for. at this point more than a third of the people here are mafia Vote: CaletonYou say this so matter-of-factly. No "I think"s, no "likely"s, no "probably" (well, the previous clause did have that, but I'm pretty sure you're not talking about that here). Pretty much point blank, you're suggesting that you know the number of Mafia remaining in the game. Given that there are 10 players left, if I'm reading you correctly, you're suggesting at least 4 of them are Mafia. What's up with this statement?
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Post by The Missing Link on Sept 17, 2012 0:58:58 GMT -6
Alright, I'm going to go and ask some questions because I want to get some better reads and/or confirm what it is I believe.
Kat - As much as I fully appreciate you thinking that I'm a good player at this game, I have to ask you this: Are there any suspects right now that you have more than a gut feeling on right now? Do you have anything solid enough that you want to vote on?
Malick - Why did you target Hellfire last night? Imagining that you were operating on the assumption that your target wouldn't be a cop result, what sort of action would you have hoped would have resulted from your action?
Vgaddict - It's time to stop lurking in the shadows. I want you to vote. In your next post. You need to take a stand and actually start getting some momentum, so help me.
Caleton - Upon further thought, I have to conclude that, all in all, with you believing that Linnet isn't Mafia, presuming there to be 4 Mafia left is a sensible assumption. It's the way you worded it that concerns me. As I'm guessing, you still believe that Linnet is Town despite the flip, am I correct? Furthermore, you've started to break the Mafia down into a specific number of actives and inactives... all this without batting an eye. If so, name your top four Mafia candidates as of the moment.
Hellfire - What do you feel about blrasmu's flip? So far you've made only a single post today, and I'm not getting a lot from it. Is there someone from the lynch wagon yesterday that you're in particular suspicious of?
Robbiecon - Let's roleplay here. Let's say I could magically give you a power to daykill off one player. Right here. Right now. Choose, but choose wisely. Who would you get rid of?
Impereld - Quiet Impereld is quiet. Hello? Earth to our hammer voter yesterday? How are you feeling? What do you think of Caleton? What do you think of Malick? What do you think of Vgaddict?
Kirawillwin - Hey Kira, where are you? You haven't posted yet, and even I've been long in posting. Can we get a status update? What are you thinking? Your name has come up quite a bit in recent conversation. What do you think of your accusers? Do you have any solid reads on them?
Darth Pokey - It's generally against my policy to lynch a replacement on their first day unless they do something really stupid and blatantly incriminate themselves on their first day. Once you finish reading, I'd like to know who you distrust the most and who you trust the most.
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Post by impereld on Sept 17, 2012 7:25:14 GMT -6
Okay, what the hell was up with blarsmu being town. I had my own reasons for suspecting that his role was utter BS, but apparrently not. Great.
To answer your question, TML, I am slightly suspicious of Caleton, though they do seem to be helping the town, but I wouldn't be against lynching if new evidence came up. Malick I believe is almost proven, and I've been saying vga is suspicious for a while now but his apparrent dodging of questions is really not helping him seem more town to me.
I'll post again probably later today with more thought out... thoughts when I am home.
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Post by Nyan Kat on Sept 17, 2012 8:38:06 GMT -6
Honestly, at this point in time, not really. I'm getting kinda busy myself but I'll try to make time to really think this through.
I will say that based on TML's eagerness to start a Caleton wagon leads me to believe that there is exactly one mafia in that pair. I say this because both have pinged my scumdar, but I don't believe they are working together.
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Post by vgaddict on Sept 17, 2012 9:24:20 GMT -6
Vote: Malick [/color]
Talk about your targeting Hellfire.
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Post by impereld on Sept 17, 2012 11:24:02 GMT -6
Okay, I'm going to have to review my suspicions.
Kira. I'm sorry, but he has to be mafia. He's got to be. There isn't enough people to go around for him not to be almost certainly mafia, in my view.
I did suspect GameGuy, but I'mma wait to see if DarthPokey is worthy of that suspicion.
Malick and monstr are like the only two people I feel safe to trust to be town 100%.
Kat... I can't be sure about Kat. She seems helpful, but it is possible she is mafia. Still on the fence if she is or not.
Caleton, TML, Hellfire. One of these, at least one, I would guess is mafia. It could be none of them are, and it seems that way, but I am still taking note of what you do. I'm not going to vote any of you, but I am watching carefully for any slip-ups.
Robbie, I do not trust. I won't openly vote for you because I have no evidence, but I do not trust you. This is not irreversible, but for now, you are possible scum.
vga is not only possible scum, he is probable scum. I trust him about as far as I can throw him, which seeing as we probably live thousands of miles away and can only throw him with my mind, would be a Planck length. If we rounded up.
If I missed anyone I apologise, I will come back and tell you why you are scum later.
Oh, also, DarthPokey, if there's anything you feel safe sharing with the town I'd love to hear it.
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Post by vgaddict on Sept 17, 2012 11:31:32 GMT -6
I'm gonna go work on my notes. I HAVE TO START OVER SINCE I GOT A NEW COMPUTER.
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Post by robbiecon on Sept 17, 2012 11:32:25 GMT -6
The Missing Link, my initial answer when I saw this question was to choose Caleton. What with his theory that Linnet was in fact town (which may be in order to throw us off connecting the two as scum perhaps, as well as the fact that we're probably only looking for 3 remaining mafia). Also, while I must throw up my own hands as having done this as well, Caleton was also on the bandwagons of townies. Admittedly blrasmu was acting very scummy, nevertheless, a mafia member would know full well what blrasmu's true allegiance was. Caleton then came in today, almost confused, and apologetic, whereas I can't help but feel it was all smoke and mirrors. Also, Caleton has not as of yet responded to my question as to why he truly thinks kira is a good lynch. ********************************* Also, the reason I said initially I would have chosen Caleton is that vgaddict has twanged my radar with his most recent post. I think Hellfire was a valid enough target for Malick personally. Also, vgaddict did indeed have the post saying everyone needed to get more into the game, although these one liners are not really helping anyone.
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Post by Hellfire on Sept 17, 2012 15:29:07 GMT -6
We also need to hear a trust list from Kira. I don't remember him posting one and I'm keen to hear what he has to say. [/color] Talk about your targeting Hellfire.[/quote] Ummm, Malick is actually one person that most of us can agree is town, and you go ahead and vote him?! Either way, I think as of now my main suspicions are Kira and Vgaddict. I think both of them need to post more (with actual content) so we can get a better understanding of their positions.
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Post by vgaddict on Sept 17, 2012 15:38:38 GMT -6
I don't know, I usually associate targeting with a killing action.
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Post by Nyan Kat on Sept 17, 2012 16:43:14 GMT -6
While I would lynch kira at this point, I'd lynch him after VGA/Caleton (yes yes kat is a barnacle I know). I'm not as sure on impereld being scum as I was before, but he could be.
also that post from the beginning of the day, I'm saying with 99% certainty, Linnet was town.
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Post by vgaddict on Sept 17, 2012 16:52:09 GMT -6
What makes you suspicious of Cale?
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Post by Nyan Kat on Sept 17, 2012 16:58:17 GMT -6
like I said a lot of it is gut. I don't have time to make a solid, detailed case today, but I will try to very soon.
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Post by malick2037 on Sept 17, 2012 17:13:44 GMT -6
VGAddict I hoped my target would give me some information about him. Voting me to get me to say this is way to freaking strange. Try to calm down and not look like scum kthx. Vote: vgaddict[/color]
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Post by Caleton on Sept 17, 2012 19:03:25 GMT -6
I'm so happy that the day finally has real content. Like impereld and vgaddict, thank you for finally posting. (vgaddict only kinda though) So a lot of people said a lot of stuff about me and a lot of it was infactual so I'll try to address all of it. Vote: CaletonYou say this so matter-of-factly. No "I think"s, no "likely"s, no "probably" (well, the previous clause did have that, but I'm pretty sure you're not talking about that here). Pretty much point blank, you're suggesting that you know the number of Mafia remaining in the game. Given that there are 10 players left, if I'm reading you correctly, you're suggesting at least 4 of them are Mafia. So, the reason this might sound like matter of fact was because day 4, we had a discussion of how many mafia we have left. I thought 5. You!!! mafia.boards.net/index.cgi?action=display&board=mafia&thread=1872&page=1#87588 said no you think 4 and i agreed with you. 5 seemed high. 4 makes sense. Other people also agreed. So then I kinda just took it for granted that there's 4 left. And if there's only 4 left, then a mislynch today and a mafia kill tonight will leave us with 4 mafia and 8 total. Meaning they win.. Though i guess we shouldn't assume there's only 4 left, i don't think its an unreasonable assumption. Not really lynch-worthy. Caleton - Upon further thought, I have to conclude that, all in all, with you believing that Linnet isn't Mafia, presuming there to be 4 Mafia left is a sensible assumption. It's the way you worded it that concerns me. As I'm guessing, you still believe that Linnet is Town despite the flip, am I correct? What with his theory that Linnet was in fact town (which may be in order to throw us off connecting the two as scum perhaps, as well as the fact that we're probably only looking for 3 remaining mafia). Ok, It wasn't MY theory that Linnet is town. Lots of people mentioned the possibility. As did I. What I DID say was that i was practically sure that linnet is not really the doppelganger. Other people (like i think nyan kat and tml) had said they thought linnet was town, i had said it made sense for her to be town. At this point, I'm honestly believing that Linnet is town, but I'm not like 100% sure of it. Like, I've been making my theories assuming shes town, since i thought that was the general accepted opinion. Though maybe i was wrong. Also I believe that thinking there's 3 mafia when there's really 4 is worse than thinking there's 4 when there's really 3. -tml The reason I broke up the town into actives and inactives wasn't just random; it was an extension from my suspicion lists from before. Before I said that perhaps tml or hellfire was mafia. And then when blrasmu turned out to be town, I was reaffirming that now including nyan kat and malick. Like I would say that all the mafia is in the [robbiecon, impereld, vgaddict, game guydarthpokey, kirawillwin] inactive group but it feels like the mafia has had a presence in our conversations and if all the mafia was inactive there would be no presence. Like maybe I've been saying things "too assertively" but this past day I've been trying to get people to post more so saying things more firmly i guess gets the town talking more. (which technically it did) I respectfully disagree. I never jumped on the bandwagon on any townies. With Miracle Fassad, I started that lynch, so that's hardly bandwagoning. And with blrasmu, I had been saying I found him suspicious since day 2 and then I was also the first one to vote him on day 4 when we lynched him. Starting the lynch isn't bandwagoning. The only lynch I kinda bandwagoned on was npr's and he was an independent serial killer... sooo yeah. Your point = no. Since I started all these townie lynches, that's why I felt so bad. And I still do. I was actually thinking of stopping giving my opinion today cuz of how wrong I was before, but I decided against it. Since less posting only helps the mafia. Caleton, both of us have been on bad bandwagons, what makes you think this is any different? ^^^Is that what you're referring to as "your question"? Yeah, I didn't understand what this meant when i first read it. I didn't get what you meant by this or by both of us. Well, still, I've already said a lot about kira. I have this post from yestergameday where I go into more detail about his bandwagons. (although the last point is moot since blrasmu was town after all) mafia.boards.net/index.cgi?action=display&board=mafia&thread=1872&page=2#87618And in this post I gave other reasons about him being suspicious. mafia.boards.net/index.cgi?action=display&board=mafia&thread=1875&page=1#87739So what do you mean by "truly good lynch" Do I need a whole thesis paper? I've said more than most people have said about their suspicions. And I've already expressed that i want to hear back from kirawillwin before we go through with it. I'm not sure what you want me to say. [/color] Talk about your targeting Hellfire.[/quote] This post feels like you just came on, read TML's post, saw he said to take a stand, so you picked a random person, voted them and said something that tml said about them. ...yeaaa I'm really confused as to your logistical issues right now. This post makes me think that either you don't have time/were not able to say anything really noteworthy, so you're just quickly responding to people til you're able to say something significant. Or you're just posting small little things just stalling, hoping these things will pass off like real activity.
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Post by vgaddict on Sept 17, 2012 19:29:52 GMT -6
^ That's what happened. Sorry.
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