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Post by Meow on Aug 4, 2012 11:08:45 GMT -6
Says the guy who is bandwagoning me. You don't have any suspicions on me at all before you vote for me, and then you say that I'm bandwagoning because I presented a reasoned argument?
You just became even scummier in my mind. ESPECIALLY after you just said .
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Post by monstrman on Aug 4, 2012 11:46:46 GMT -6
Apparently the hydra account broke and i didnt make it so i cant fix it. Anyway, i'm also confused. Npr, didnt you say you were against day 1 lynching today? Wats all this them
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Post by Nyan Kat on Aug 4, 2012 11:54:48 GMT -6
That seems to be happening to multiple people, so it's probably a proboards issue. Try accessing the hydra account again in a few hours. If this continues for longer than that, I'll grant an extension on the Day.[/color]
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Post by PhyrexianSheep on Aug 4, 2012 12:12:42 GMT -6
I was able to reset the password because I (Squeege) was the one that made the account, but yeah. ~ First, Unvote: [/color]. I don't want any quick lynches, just in case. Second, Hercules, claim. We've only got around 24 hours (maybe a little longer if Kat gives an extention). I was the first to vote for him though. If you look at the timing, Kirby and I simulposted. I didn't read Kirby's post until after I posted.
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Post by NPR on Aug 4, 2012 13:01:22 GMT -6
This is why i hate phone posting: i don't have the time to fully explain everything. For the record, i'm only against D1 lynches in small games such as this if they are "just cuz" lynches. THAT'S what i've been trying to say.
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Post by Meow on Aug 4, 2012 14:23:44 GMT -6
"Just cuz he voted for me" sounds like a "Just cuz" lynch.
Phyrexian: Oh yes, I apologise. I didn't notice that. Even so, though, I'd like you to explain what you meant when you voted for me.
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Post by Hercules on Aug 4, 2012 17:01:53 GMT -6
Lemme get this straight: i make a post telling the hydras not to fight with each other to avoid spam, and then you make a joke vote on me (you copied MF's post restriction, making me at least think it was a joke vote.) I make another post, about the hydras fooling around, and suddenly i'm the prime candidate for a D1 lynch in a 7 player game. yes, D1 lynches are usually helpful, but with a possible 5 players left in the morning after a mislynch, the town is f***ed. For anyone looking to vote for me on my inactivity: i'm working 2 jobs, both of which are taking up more and more time. I don't have the time to make 1 large, thoughtful post on my phone. And for future reference, this will happen in every game i'm in until september/october right now, i'm looking at the 2 people trying to get an NPR lynch off. If we do pull off a D1 lynch, which I don't recommend in a game this small, i myself would love to start on the 2 people using weak reasoning trying to lynch me. /rant 1) It's not your job to tell people not to spam. Any day 1 activity is good. 2) The fact that it's a 7 player game means nothing, and quite frankly I'm suspicious of you saying we should abstain. 3) It's not weak reasoning. You may think that because it's a vote on yourself, but trying to seem helpful while persuading the town to abstain makes you seem like a mafiat. I can't really latch on to Phyrexian's suspicion when Phyrexian didn't give any suspicions. I was the first one to do so, and Phyrexian was the person who said "Yeah I agree with that"A little confused by what he said, and annoyed at his flip-flopping of votes. He didn't give a reason for his supsicion and subsequent vote, he just did it (At least from what I can see, as he hasn't given any of his own reasons) because Kirby did. Says the guy who is bandwagoning me. You don't have any suspicions on me at all before you vote for me, and then you say that I'm bandwagoning because I presented a reasoned argument? You just became even scummier in my mind. ESPECIALLY after you just said . "Just cuz he voted for me" sounds like a "Just cuz" lynch. Phyrexian: Oh yes, I apologise. I didn't notice that. Even so, though, I'd like you to explain what you meant when you voted for me.
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Post by Nyan Kat on Aug 4, 2012 17:20:08 GMT -6
thanks, mon. PM me if you guys want an extension anyway![/color]
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Post by CoolPeopleIGuess on Aug 4, 2012 18:13:53 GMT -6
Apparently the hydra account broke and i didnt make it so i cant fix it. Anyway, i'm also confused. Npr, didnt you say you were against day 1 lynching today? Wats all this them
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Post by CoolPeopleIGuess on Aug 4, 2012 18:38:26 GMT -6
WHY ARE WE STILL VOTING OURSELVES?
Unvote: [/color]
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Post by Kirby on Aug 4, 2012 19:17:06 GMT -6
I was able to reset the password because I (Squeege) was the one that made the account, but yeah. Yeah, not sure what happened with Proboards, first the accounts messed up, then the site was down. Looks like a simple password reset fixes it though. [/color]. I don't want any quick lynches, just in case. Second, Hercules, claim. We've only got around 24 hours (maybe a little longer if Kat gives an extention). [/quote] Yeah, now's a good time to claim, Hercules. While the NPR OMGUS seems a bit fishy to me, I do agree with him and Phrexian still that your vote was a bit too opportunistic. And although I agree with you over NPR that a lynch is better than an abstain, especially in this case with an odd number of players, I thought you Meow were one of the more hesitant players to lynch? Or was that just you being mafia in the other games? I actually didn't notice that until it was pointed out either, I thought your vote was a follow up as well. At least we're on the same page now. @cpig: Don't you usually have someone to tunnel by now? Who are your suspicions? Linnet: I know you answered about Malick, but what do you think about the other players? @malick: I see you trust Linnet and suspect CPIG. Is CPIG still your top suspect?
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Post by CoolPeopleIGuess on Aug 4, 2012 19:23:15 GMT -6
I'm kinda leaning between Hercules/Phyrexian Sheep/Malick/NPR. The only people that seem town to me are kirby and linnet. AND STOP METAING ME! I'm a hydra it's not fair
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Post by Hercules on Aug 4, 2012 20:00:40 GMT -6
PS, I would really like to know exactly how my post was "pussyfooting." You keep using that word, and I don't quite understand what it means, but I believe you mean I wasn't pressing hard enough?
I fail to understand exactly how my vote was opportunistic. For one, I was first to actually state any logic behind a vote on NPR. PS made what seemed like a joke vote, I posted that I was suspicious of NPR, THEN PS says his vote was serious, BUT doesn't use any logic to back it up. When I stated my suspicions, no one else had any actual suspicions on NPR, or so it seemed. Yes, I suppose you could say that I made my vote only because PS said his was serious, but that would require ridiculous forethought to pull off. Right, I could totally know PS was serious, and plant a post saying I was suspicious of NPR, KNOWING in the future someone would actually agree with me and we could pull off a mislynch. Totally, guys.
I for one would like to see Malick's and Linnet's take on this debate, I don't believe I've seen them comment on it yet, and it's pretty vital that everyone have their input known on this situation I think.
Also, CPIG, I'm not sure how I feel about metaing hydras. The biggest worry about it for me is that just about every pair is playing it fairly differently, and nobody is signing their posts.
Which leads me to my next question: who wants hydras to sign their posts? I'll vote yes on that, and I will as long as the other hydras do. Heck, I'll even sign this post.
-The Gaming Hercules
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Post by malick2037 on Aug 4, 2012 21:38:04 GMT -6
Kirby not so much anymore because I see my thoughts were very strange. I don't really have any suspicions as of now. Also Unvote: CPIG[/color] Hercules I am confused to what debate you mean?
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Post by Hercules on Aug 5, 2012 2:51:45 GMT -6
Yeah, now's a good time to claim, Hercules. While the NPR OMGUS seems a bit fishy to me, I do agree with him and Phrexian still that your vote was a bit too opportunistic. And although I agree with you over NPR that a lynch is better than an abstain, especially in this case with an odd number of players, I thought you Meow were one of the more hesitant players to lynch? Or was that just you being mafia in the other games? Actually no, it isn't a good time to claim. You really don't want me to. Yes, I usually am one of the more reserved players in regards to a lynch, but that hasn't exactly boded well in previous games. This time, I would like to try something different. I was the first to vote for him though. A vote is different to giving suspicions, and a joke vote is even more different than that. @malick: The debate on whether we should be lynched or not.
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Post by Nyan Kat on Aug 5, 2012 10:00:29 GMT -6
'morning
Hercules (2): Kirby, NPR [L-2] NPR (1): Hercules No vote: PhyrexianSheep, CoolPeopleIGuess, malick, Linnet
With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Day ends today when I leave for work (in about four hours)
Activity check: Everyone's good right now![/color]
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Post by Kirby on Aug 5, 2012 10:31:01 GMT -6
I fail to understand exactly how my vote was opportunistic. For one, I was first to actually state any logic behind a vote on NPR. PS made what seemed like a joke vote, I posted that I was suspicious of NPR, THEN PS says his vote was serious, BUT doesn't use any logic to back it up. When I stated my suspicions, no one else had any actual suspicions on NPR, or so it seemed. Yes, I suppose you could say that I made my vote only because PS said his was serious, but that would require ridiculous forethought to pull off. Right, I could totally know PS was serious, and plant a post saying I was suspicious of NPR, KNOWING in the future someone would actually agree with me and we could pull off a mislynch. Totally, guys. I'm sorry, you're right. Phrexian does state that his vote was serious though, and that implies that he voted on a gut feeling, but you were the first to give reasoning. But the way you jumped NPR for mediating seems a bit out there. Maybe I'm just not seeing it. Same. What they've said hasn't jumped out as me as scummy yet, but we all need to put out opinions so we can solidify our own reads. I can pretty much tell who's posting (though Squeege and his brother are very similar, but he gives context clues). I could sign my posts, though I'm not sure what that will solve. It's more of a combination of two players than a merging of two players, so it's not like their meta will change. monstrman would still act like monstr and MF will act like MF. Actually no, it isn't a good time to claim. You really don't want me to. Well, could be faking a power claim, so I'm not 100% sold, but I'll trust you for now. I suppose GG has had some influence on you, huh? I don't know how long Squeege's brother (or Squeege for that matter) has been playing mafia, but sometimes more experienced players will use joke votes that are based on actual gut feelings or inferences. That's how I saw it anyways. Of course, he could be lying about being serious about the vote though. Unvote: Hercules[/color] I guess I'm not comfortable lynching Hercules just yet. I'd still like to hear more from the people who haven't given suspicions yet though, or contributed about the NPR/Phrexian/Hercules debate.
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Post by Hercules on Aug 5, 2012 10:51:56 GMT -6
I can pretty much tell who's posting (though Squeege and his brother are very similar, but he gives context clues). I could sign my posts, though I'm not sure what that will solve. It's more of a combination of two players than a merging of two players, so it's not like their meta will change. monstrman would still act like monstr and MF will act like MF. Honestly, I've been having a hard time telling who is who, so it would help me out, at least. I guess if everyone else is OK with you not doing so, that's fine, but sometimes I just don't have a clue. -The Gaming Herc
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Post by CoolPeopleIGuess on Aug 5, 2012 11:08:37 GMT -6
I'm still not entirely convinced that Herc wasn't just trying to paint Malick/NPR guilty colors... but the same can be said about Phyrexian Sheep. At least for NPR/Herc. Not to mention the possibility that NPR/Malick could be scum.
I still say we lynch someone, because our odds of getting mafia if we don't will be increased either way. Plus lots of info. Also: I'm not sure I entirely buy the whole "you don't want me to claim thing." Something feels off about it to me. Let's call it a gut feeling...
Vote: Hercules[/color]
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Post by malick2037 on Aug 5, 2012 11:46:33 GMT -6
I still don't think Hercules should actually be lynched because there was no real reason behind the bandwagoning on him (If there was a reason and I didn't see it please tell me).
PSheep is more of a suspicion of mine now because of his always changing votes, going on bandwagons.
Even though I don't think we should lynch Hercules we do need a day 1 lynch. If we have to lynch him we have to lynch him.
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Post by Hercules on Aug 5, 2012 11:51:05 GMT -6
I'm still not entirely convinced that Herc wasn't just trying to paint Malick/NPR guilty colors... but the same can be said about Phyrexian Sheep. At least for NPR/Herc. Not to mention the possibility that NPR/Malick could be scum. Yeah, I don't get this at all. Isn't the whole point of us playing mafia as townies to look at everyone says and deduce who is the mafia? So yes, we are "painting them guilty colors," as you say. Aren't you doing the same with us? If by "painting them guilty colors," you mean making them seem suspicious when they really aren't, explain to me how our logic is flawed, please. If you can't, then I think you're just throwing around that phrase to justify votes that you can't put any real logic behind.
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Post by Hercules on Aug 5, 2012 11:58:11 GMT -6
Oh yeah I forgot
-The Gaming Herc
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Post by Hercules on Aug 5, 2012 12:30:37 GMT -6
Further along these lines:
I've simply been reading into what people have said. If you disagree with this, that's fine, but at least say why you disagree with it. Don't just go "I disagree /vote Hercules"
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Post by PhyrexianSheep on Aug 5, 2012 13:29:42 GMT -6
Ugh.
Pussyfooting is exactly what it sounds like.
Most of the posts have been me (Squeege), except the RVS vote on Linnet, and the other post where it's obvious DM is talking.
I started playing mafia... May 2009 I think, and DM started playing around October 2009 after I showed it to him. The vote wasn't intended to be a joke (that's why I put the "seriously" at the end), but more of a gut feeling vote; I wasn't sure how to explain it yet.
Yeah, that's how to play as mafia. Or at least, one of the ways. It isn't nearly as farfetched as you're trying to make it sound.
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I hate lynching without a roleclaim, but I would really rather not no-lynch, and nothing Hercules has said has really made me think he's town.
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Post by Hercules on Aug 5, 2012 13:47:22 GMT -6
Ugh. Pussyfooting is exactly what it sounds like. Is it seriously that hard to explain exactly what you mean to people who can't understand you? I cannot provide an ample defense to your claim unless you explain what pussyfooting means and what about my post was pussyfooting. -The Gaming Herc
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Post by Kirby on Aug 5, 2012 13:51:35 GMT -6
You might want to go ahead and claim, Hercules. I am hesistant to lynch you without a claim, but I have to say, I side with Phrexian on this. It is a playstyle for mafia to put suspicions out there and latch onto whatever suspicions get votes. That's why mafia tend to be the 2nd-4th voters on a wagon.
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Post by Hercules on Aug 5, 2012 13:57:23 GMT -6
OK, it is common for mafia to put out suspicions, yes, but I put out one very particular suspicion. When mafiats do that, they usually list a lot more than that so they have a better chance of having votes to latch on to.
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Post by Kirby on Aug 5, 2012 13:59:18 GMT -6
Oh crap, the deadline's at 3, I was thinking 4 CST. Well, looks like we're not getting a claim by then, so I'll go ahead and place my vote back so we can actually get a lynch today. Vote: Hercules[/color]
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Post by Nyan Kat on Aug 5, 2012 14:00:03 GMT -6
LOCKED
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Post by Nyan Kat on Aug 5, 2012 14:09:42 GMT -6
That's a lynch![/color][/size] Hercules (1): NPR, CoolPeopleIGuess, PhyrexianSheep, Kirby [LYNCHED!] [/color] NPR (1): Hercules No vote: malick, LinnetWith 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.[/color] Hercules was up late, trying on wigs and figuring out how to salvage Hogan's bombs to send to the Nazis. Something about one of the other people in Stalag 13 seemed very off to Herc, so he called him out. Nobody believed his story, no matter how many times or ways he tried to explain it. So they called the Gestapo and had him court-marshaled. Hercules was Technical Sergeant Carter, Vanilla Townie[/color]. If you become known for disguises while a POW, you'll get in trouble one way or another. It is now Night 1. Night will end Tuesday, August 7, at about 4 PM US Eastern Time or when I get all the actions.[/color]
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