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Post by Darthpokey on Aug 2, 2023 20:08:26 GMT -6
After an eventful night the creatures of the planet woke up to a light in the distance. The all crawled, slithered, walked, etc towards to light to investigate what it could be. It was none other than a nice toasty bonfire, whoever had set this up must have been a very kind individual indeed as it was a bit chilly this night and now everyone had a nice place to warm up! The creatures spent the night away singing campfire songs, having a phazon drinking contest and other fun events. It wasn't until morning that they noticed the campfire was actually the burning remains of CaptainPlanet's body. Whoops!
Captain Planet was ???, ???, ???
The creatures could still sense a presence watching over them. They were still being hunted and needed to band together to stop this powerful entity...
It is now Day 2, with 7 players alive it takes 4 to reach majority. Day 2 will end on Monday August 7th at 9 pm est
Players: 1. Lunchuboxu 2. CaptainPlanet - ???, ???, ??? 3. ToxicTodd 4. Erniewan 5. Immunization 6. Quads 7. Kpio 8. Fobby
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Post by LUNCHUBOXuwu on Aug 2, 2023 20:23:40 GMT -6
Well, there was a small part of me wondering if it was a setup with a serial killer but I think that's thrown out the window
RIP CP
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Post by LUNCHUBOXuwu on Aug 2, 2023 20:24:55 GMT -6
Anyone think he breadcrumbed his role?
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Quads
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Post by Quads on Aug 2, 2023 20:34:01 GMT -6
not sure if he did but there is one thing i'm sure of
vote: immunization
feel comfortable claiming this early in a small game like this, I'm Metroid Prime, Cop, Town Aligned, and last night I detected immunization as Chozo Ghost, Mafia Aligned.
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Post by LUNCHUBOXuwu on Aug 2, 2023 20:40:03 GMT -6
Wow, bye bye immunization.
Vote: immunization
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Post by LUNCHUBOXuwu on Aug 2, 2023 20:40:56 GMT -6
Don't hammer it too quick, there's still info to pass out during this day.
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Quads
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Post by Quads on Aug 2, 2023 20:41:21 GMT -6
if there were any redirections involving me last night now is the time to speak up
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Post by LUNCHUBOXuwu on Aug 2, 2023 20:42:17 GMT -6
Not me sir!
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Post by immunization on Aug 2, 2023 22:06:56 GMT -6
So I am Chozo Ghost but I'm town... So either I have a secret Miller like I did as Launch in HG or Quads is some kind of fault cop or lying. And Quads and Lunch both immediately voting for me after CP was janitored is sus. I can fully claim as needed, but I'm gonna think about this for a minute while raid finished up. I'm already 2/4 for reference.
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Post by toxictodd on Aug 2, 2023 23:06:31 GMT -6
No need to end the day so quickly but I think it's unlikely quads is lying right now. But if there is a redirector in play im very likely to believe a bus driver could also be out there so good chance that quads detect isn't 100% accurate. Although something about Immune saying that he will "full claim" rubs me the wrong way and I think he just feels caught right now lol.
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Post by toxictodd on Aug 2, 2023 23:09:09 GMT -6
I thinkkkk cp was simply janitored but again with all the swaps it would be really funny if he was mafia and somehow got dunked on. Did you happen to redirect anyone last night then?
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Post by immunization on Aug 3, 2023 9:23:48 GMT -6
if there were any redirections involving me last night now is the time to speak up I don't think you were since that IS my flavor. Unless a redirect would show my flavor as Chozo Ghost with someone else's alignment (and no role). You could also be a paranoid cop, insane cop, or some kind of mafia cop. Basically this whole question and scenario makes me wary. My top scum read was just janitored, and now my two other scum reads are voting for me with an inaccurate cop report. No need to end the day so quickly but I think it's unlikely quads is lying right now. But if there is a redirector in play im very likely to believe a bus driver could also be out there so good chance that quads detect isn't 100% accurate. Although something about Immune saying that he will "full claim" rubs me the wrong way and I think he just feels caught right now lol. I just meant that I didn't want to if someone had some further information that wouldn't require me to. Similar to us not wanting to end the day too quickly. Either way, I'll just claim now. I am Chozo Ghost, Redirector, Town Aligned.
I redirected CP to target Lunch last night, so I was not involved in Quads' business last night. So I really think either he's some kind of inaccurate town cop, a mafia cop (who got my role which is why he brought up redirection?), or there's possibly a mafia version of me (mafia redirector or bus driver)? Or I'm a secret miller again lol.
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Post by immunization on Aug 3, 2023 9:28:08 GMT -6
I thinkkkk cp was simply janitored but again with all the swaps it would be really funny if he was mafia and somehow got dunked on. Did you happen to redirect anyone last night then? Also were you asking me if I redirected last night?
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Fobby
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Post by Fobby on Aug 3, 2023 10:24:33 GMT -6
lol wow
aight that's quite a bit in a few posts.
immu says he redirected cp to lunch? hm. actions involving the dead guy are always tough cause he can't confirm anything i don't have any reason to doubt quads on this--that's pretty strong info. immu, do we benefit at all from keeping you around? the day seems pretty set otherwise
lunch is still on my radar
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Post by immunization on Aug 3, 2023 10:48:18 GMT -6
The benefit being I'm telling the truth and you won't lose a town number. You'll be 3 town to 2 mafia if you vote me out and they NK successfully. When I flip town then what's the plan?
Quads is at best tampered with or insane... At worst a mafia role cop. Bill somehow knew I was a redirector before I claimed? Maybe his scum buddy that knew my role in the den result? Either way I'm suspicious of both of them and Lunch.
I dunno, if y'all think I'm the move go for it. At least I can't be janitored when I'm lynched and y'all will know the truth.
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Post by toxictodd on Aug 3, 2023 12:37:27 GMT -6
Bill somehow knew I was a redirector before I claimed? /quote] Wait now I'm confusing myself lol. I skimmed the thread while at work last night and when quads revealed your alignment and then asked if anyone redirected to let him know immediately I somehow thought that meant he knew you were a redirector of some kind. Mostly an error on me not fully reading last night, but no I did not know your role beforehand.
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Post by toxictodd on Aug 3, 2023 12:38:32 GMT -6
Wait now I'm confusing myself lol. I skimmed the thread while at work last night and when quads revealed your alignment and then asked if anyone redirected to let him know immediately I somehow thought that meant he knew you were a redirector of some kind. Mostly an error on me not fully reading last night, but no I did not know your role beforehand.
This forum is making me feel like a boomer but lets get my post out of that above quote.
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Post by Quads on Aug 3, 2023 12:45:53 GMT -6
the reason i brought up redirection was just in case someone had redirected me from you to someone else and wasn't paying enough attention to think to speak up - i have literally been killed because people were incapable of reading before so i don't want a REPEAT of that
everything you're claiming is plausible but unprovable which is unfortunate if you are town - can I ask the logic behind redirecting CP onto Lunch specifically?
wanted to ask a metroid loremaster for input as well - with the theming of this game it seems like the enemies are town and samus/allies are the mafia, would a chozo ghost fit with the town in this case? gut tells me no because the chozo raised samus or w/e but i haven't played the prime games
interesting to note that bill was asking who alex redirected even before he'd claimed though
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Post by Quads on Aug 3, 2023 12:47:09 GMT -6
oh and i got ninja'd by bill lmao, guess we can strike that point off. it's probably worth clarifying that I don't get a role with my detect, it's just flavour/alignment
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Post by immunization on Aug 3, 2023 13:11:13 GMT -6
the reason i brought up redirection was just in case someone had redirected me from you to someone else and wasn't paying enough attention to think to speak up - i have literally been killed because people were incapable of reading before so i don't want a REPEAT of that everything you're claiming is plausible but unprovable which is unfortunate if you are town - can I ask the logic behind redirecting CP onto Lunch specifically? wanted to ask a metroid loremaster for input as well - with the theming of this game it seems like the enemies are town and samus/allies are the mafia, would a chozo ghost fit with the town in this case? gut tells me no because the chozo raised samus or w/e but i haven't played the prime games interesting to note that bill was asking who alex redirected even before he'd claimed though I have minimal knowledge of Metroid in general, so all I know is what is presented in my role PM... I don't know what the rules are, but can I paraphrase it? As far as my targets last night, my thought process was to target my biggest scum read onto one of my other scum reads and hope it would fuck up the mafia's plans, and most ideally lead to them hindering or even night killing their own.
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Post by immunization on Aug 3, 2023 14:15:48 GMT -6
I asked DP and he said I could paraphrase my role PM so long as I didn't directly quote it. So I am Chozo Ghost, Redirector, Town aligned. And in particular, I am the ghost of a deceased honorable chozo warrior, but phazon has appeared on the planet and has warped my ghostly mind to become crazy. I can use my ghost powers to posses others and cause them to target a different player. I think the part about phazon warping my mind might mean that I am a miller / appear as mafia?
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Post by immunization on Aug 3, 2023 14:16:40 GMT -6
Unless I'm reading too much into it and it's just a bit of flavor. Again, I don't really know much about the Metroid-verse.
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Post by toxictodd on Aug 3, 2023 17:09:03 GMT -6
I don't really know how to feel about a town aligned redirector. In my experience its always been town aligned bus driver and mafia aligned redirector. Of course DP is the type of host to change things up with these sort of things but it's hard to be on board with believing a miller claim.
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Post by immunization on Aug 3, 2023 18:09:27 GMT -6
Well to be clear, I am NOT claiming miller. I was just trying to come up with suggestions on why Quads would have seen me that way.
Also, I don't think redirector is a mafia counterpart to bus driver. they are completely different roles.
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kpio
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Post by kpio on Aug 3, 2023 18:36:22 GMT -6
Glad I refreshed the page, oh hey the day started.
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Post by toxictodd on Aug 4, 2023 12:48:19 GMT -6
Also, I don't think redirector is a mafia counterpart to bus driver. they are completely different roles. I feel like they are close enough though. Thinking back in HG we had a two gokus one mafia and one town and they filled the role of being a redirector and bus driver. That being said its a huge risk keeping you alive because if you aren't telling the truth we run the risk of allowing you to compromise the cop at night by constantly redirecting their detections to somebody else. Don't really know where to go from here unless kpio has something to add or we eventually here from ernie.
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Post by Erniewan on Aug 4, 2023 14:29:58 GMT -6
Sorry, I didn't know the day had started until today. I read up and honestly... I kinda believe them both. I don't know Metroid Prime lore that well, but from a quick read, it seems like Chozo Ghost could be an enemy (aka Town in this game), but similar enough to an ally being Chozo (aka Mafia), that I could see secret Miller being the case. If Quads had detected imm as straight Chozo, this decision would be a lot easier, but as is, it could be that they're both telling the truth and we just kinda screwed ourselves into revealing two power roles.
I'm still at work right now, but just wanted to give my 2 cents before any lynch happened. Perhaps let's think this through first.
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Post by Erniewan on Aug 5, 2023 11:19:51 GMT -6
So I talked with one of my friends, and he said that the Chozo Ghost would be more aligned with Phazon than with Samus. So where do we go from here? A) Quads is Town Cop, imm is Town Redirector (miller): We could leave them both alive, probably Quads could get another detect off with a Doc around, imm could get lucky and redirect the mafia. B) Quads is Mafia Cop, imm is Town Redirector: I'd bet Metroid Prime/Dark Samus is in the game somewhere, so probably not the case, but actual cop should probably counterclaim. C) Quads is Town Cop, imm is Mafia: Imm is still Chozo Ghost, so I think this is unlikely but if it is the case then we'd obviously need to lynch Imm. D) Quads is Mafia Cop, imm is Mafia: Quite a gambit, as it seems we'd lynch his team mate.
kpio, what do you THINK?
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Post by immunization on Aug 6, 2023 14:35:57 GMT -6
Yeah, I think you summed up my thoughts about the potential scenarios of what happened and what should be done, Ernie. I really do want to hear more from Kpio, or anyone else really, who can potentially shed some light on things. But after thinking on this all this weekend, I think I'm tempted to think Quads is more likely to be Town Cop? Especially if, as Ernie said, no one else counter claims. Which then leads me to think either the miller theory OR that I could have a mafia redirector counterpart that got lucky with redirecting the cop into seeing me as mafia. Either way, I think Bill has moved up my scum reads substantially. His posts today about redirection and swaps (mentioned before anything was even brought up) read as knowing too much and spewing. I thinkkkk cp was simply janitored but again with all the swaps it would be really funny if he was mafia and somehow got dunked on. Did you happen to redirect anyone last night then? Like, what did you mean here by "all the swaps" ?
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Post by Quads on Aug 6, 2023 15:45:12 GMT -6
I think the part about phazon warping my mind might mean that I am a miller / appear as mafia? not sure if I can get behind that logic going by my own flavour. I checked with DP to confirm that we can mention flavour as long as it's not direct quotes and the jist of mine is that i ate so much phazon that i can now sense it within the planet's creatures, and anything i can sense phazon within is friendly. a lot of the arguments that immune is putting forward make sense but I still think he's the best option for today assuming nothing else more pressing comes up.
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