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Post by Erniewan on May 15, 2012 17:27:20 GMT -6
Captain Oblivious was sitting in his room, thinking about his top suspects when suddenly the room exploded in a huge ball of fire that engulfed his whole body. As he felt the heat surge around him, the flames burning away his flesh, he abruptly awoke; it had been only a flash, a premonition of his own future. Realizing he was still sitting, he got up out of his seat and quickly made his way out the door into the dark. No sooner did he get out of his cabin, the place erupted in a massive explosion once again, or rather as he had so luckily foreseen. The force of the explosion knocked him out into the nearby jungle, but he was alive this time, he had cheated death. But a pair of eyes watched ominously in the vicinity as he stood back up and dusted off himself. The shadowed figure pulled out his gun and fired a fatal shot at Captain Oblivious, who stumbled to the ground. As he laid on the ground losing consciousness, a photograph of his constant slowly burned into ashes in the nearby rubble. Captain Oblivious was Desmond Hume, Time Mage, TownThe four remaining Island inhabitants walked up to each other in the morning, each eyeing the other without the least amount of trust. But each one was determined to outsmart the other; the end was near, but the outcome was still very up in the air. How they fared in these final battles would decide not only their own fates, but the destiny of the Island and its power. A crackling was heard over the Dharma station intercom, then in a computerized voice: "Hey, this is your Protector, please leave a message after the beep. *beep*". It is now Day 9.With 4 alive, it takes 3 to lynch. Day 9 ends on Tuesday, May 22nd @ 6 pm (CST).Roster:3. Worthy Protoplasm 4. monstrman 6. blrasmu 17. waehofen Dead:1. NPR - Jack Shephard, Doctor [Protector], Town, Lynched D22. DarthPokey - Hurley Reyes, Friendly Neighbor/Medium, Town, Killed N45. DrShlub - ??????, Killed N37. Miracle Fassad shrek32 - Sayid Jarrah, Righteous Vigilante, Town, Killed N28. Doc - Mr. Eko, Bodyguard, Town, Killed D79. Puppyduck - Ethan Rom, Doctor/Infiltrator, The Others Mafia, Killed N110. robbiecon - Mikhail Bakunin, Surveillance/Suicide Bomber, The Others Mafia, Killed D411. XX Stone - Martin Keamy, Captor/Mad Gunman, The Freighter Mafia, Lynched D412. SMAP - Frank Lapidus, Abductor/Janitor, The Freighter Mafia, Lynched D313. thegameguy - Charles Widmore, Godfather/Politician, The Freighter Mafia, Killed D714. Meow - Ana Lucia Cortez, Cop [Protector], Town, Killed N715. kirawillwin - Daniel Faraday, Spy/Recruiter, The Freighter Mafia, Killed N516. capcommaster Ben Linus, Godfather/Redirector, The Others Mafia, Lynched D718. Captain Planet Kail - Juliet Burke, Nurse/Miller, Town, Killed D619. kpio Squeege - Richard Alpert, Armor/Janitor, The Others Mafia, Lynched D620. CaptainOblivious - Desmond Hume, Time Mage, Town, Killed N821. Kat T. Bard - Sun-Hwa, Kwon, Avenging Mason [Protector], Town, Killed N422. soup567 - ??????, Killed N123. commonyoshi - Sawyer Ford, Burglar, Town, Killed N724. LordManiMani - Libby Smith, Cheerleader, Town, Killed N325. wave57 - Kate Austen, Tracker, Town, Killed N626. vitritaime werdna - Michael Dawson, Wooden Armor/Traitor, The Freighter Mafia, Lynched D827. Jamis - Jin-Soo Kwon, Mason, Town, Killed N3And here's the theme of the day!
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Post by monstrman on May 15, 2012 18:48:36 GMT -6
So it's down to this... I blocked wae last night I'm unsure of whether or not blras targetted me. I'd say that means either blras or wp is mafia? Blras did you send your message?
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Post by monstrman on May 15, 2012 18:49:00 GMT -6
^I'm unsure of whether or not CO targetted me*
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Post by Captain Oblivious on May 15, 2012 18:59:33 GMT -6
See you in another life, bruthah.
.... Finally I get to say this, geeeeeez.
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Post by blrasmu on May 16, 2012 12:30:36 GMT -6
Yes I did. I sent it to you, monstr. It read, "This is a test of the emergency broadcast system. This is only a test."
Did you get this?
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Post by monstrman on May 16, 2012 13:28:13 GMT -6
I did not.
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Post by Worthy Protoplasm on May 16, 2012 19:12:27 GMT -6
We're probably still dealing with two mafia members, actually, given that werdna was a traitor rather than a starting mafia member. Which means wae is probably one of the last two mafia, given that he was blocked last night and there was only one kill.
I trust monstr a bit more than blrasmu, so I'm guessing blrasmu is probably the other mafia member. I'm way more suspicious of wae, though, all things considered.
Of course, if there are two mafia members left, we won't be able to lynch without one of the mafia members helping us anyway. :/
(as a side note, I watched monstr last night and didn't see anything, so yeah; either bl is lying or co used his ability on monstr)
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Post by blrasmu on May 16, 2012 19:35:42 GMT -6
Well... crap. CO could have used his ability on me, so give it another night. I doubt the mafia teams have enough members to do anything besides killing, so it's unlikely I was blocked.
I trust monstr the most, so that leaves wae and worthy as possible mafia members. Of those two, I would vote for wae today, then worthy tomorrow.
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Post by monstrman on May 16, 2012 22:50:37 GMT -6
So... we have a bunch of conflicting actions and no proof of anything at all?
Obviously, if we mislynch now, we lose... and I can't decide who to vote for. Obviously the case is the mafia is going to win if there are two mafia members left.
Tbph, I'd assume it would be wae and maybe blras if that were the case. I suppose we can wait until tomorrow to find out if his action goes through but I'm p. sure the mafias are just gonna kill a townie and not gun for each other, because then it just leaves themselves...
I wonder if our best course of action is just to abstain and see?
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Post by blrasmu on May 17, 2012 14:30:40 GMT -6
If there are two mafias left and we abstain, it is very possible that they could kill off both townies. I don't know what the means since the two mafias would be deadlocked, but the town would be at a loss.
I'm gonna take a look at the past few days and see if I can find anything I missed.
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Post by monstrman on May 17, 2012 14:58:49 GMT -6
from what I understand, the way ernie runs things, is that if everyone in the game is dead, then the town wins. I.E. following their win condition "You win when all threats to the town are eliminated"
It says nowhere that any number of townies has to be alive, just that any threat to the town has to die. So if we let the mafiats kill each other, we win. Worst case scenario: I block the wrong person, two townies die, mafiats kill each other, town wins? At least that's what I assume would be the case. If nothing else we could just abstain twice. Of course, we could all lynch one person, then I could block the remaining mafiat assuming I choose correctly, then town wins.
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Post by monstrman on May 17, 2012 15:06:19 GMT -6
Ah whatever vote: waehofen[/color]
if we mislynch, then I have a 50/50 shot of saving the town anyway.
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Post by Erniewan on May 18, 2012 18:40:19 GMT -6
Vote Count:Voted | # | Voters | waehofen | 1 | monstrman |
No vote: blrasmu, waehofen, Worthy Protoplasm With 4 alive, it takes 3 to lynch. Day 9 ends on Tuesday, May 22nd @ 6 pm (CST).
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Post by Worthy Protoplasm on May 18, 2012 20:51:47 GMT -6
I'm going to give wae a little bit of time to show up and at least try to defend himself. I'll probably vote him if he doesn't show up before too much longer.
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Post by waehofen on May 19, 2012 12:13:20 GMT -6
That's cool of you. Even when I have been able to get online for this game I've definitely been a lackluster player, and to be honest I'm not sure I deserve this chance... I thought about this a little over N8, and it seemed really weird how basically everybody seemed to be town, and the one person I had trusted for the entire game was claiming Saboteur. Well, what a few of you have been proposing is that two of us are lying, completely lying, and a lot of the information we've gotten this game has been irrelevant. Maybe it's a little flavor discussion-y, but it's an important point here. We've had 3 dead people turn up as [Protector]. afaik nobody else who is alive right now is one. We've had no word of the MiB at all. And, so far as we know, despite the presence of two mafias in this game there's not a single Independent player in the game. As much as I hate to say it, my best guess - my only guess - is that my conviction in monstrman was slightly misplaced. I'm tempted to think that the reason I was so strongly convinced that he was town is because he wasn't mafia, and when all you have to aid you is second-rate scumhunting, those things look to be equivalent. The thing is, the reason I was so sure that his Saboteur claim was legit is that he was my target N6, so it wouldn't have made any sense to me - at least at the time - for him to be a killer and for me to be alive. But then I remembered NPR, and the dead Protectors, and how the reason why I was so willing to lynch him was because his "if we all die then the town loses" claim sounded like BS. It still does. But maybe he was wrong about the exact terms, and it's actually more like the end of Ernie's Firefly Mafia game. Where if the Protectors are dead, the Man in Black gets to start some sort of doomsday scenario, or at least start killing once per Night (I'll get to this later). Basically I think that the Protectors were doing what Jason did in the show: keeping the Man in Black at bay somehow. tl;dr I think the reason why this is a recorded, computerized message is because they're all dead now. OK so let's just say for a moment that monstrman is the Man in Black, some sort of weird Indi serial killer-y thing that can't start his efforts to escape the island until all of the Protectors are dead. Going by the show he'd probably have Locke as a fakeclaim, and appear as Locke in every way, at least until some relevant point. He might be given a secondary role in the mean-time, or if not just claim one (again, Saboteur could go either way). And if he failed to get somebody lynched for D9, then either he'd kill WP over N9 and D10 blrasmu and I would realize that we weren't both mafia and lynch him, or he'd kill one of us over N9 and D10 WP would look at the deaths and realize something was going on. So yeah my best guess is Vote: monstrman, I'll be here some today Anyway, if I'm wrong about this then the only other alternative I can think of is either monstrman or blrasmu took a recruitment offer from one of the mafias, which would either explain several of blras's abstains or how monstr has apparently kept the ability to roleblock certain Nights pretty consistently. N1 - NPR (I suppose it's possible that Erniewan made the Protector recruitment safe from redirection, as that could severely break the game. Or maybe one of us was redirected or blocked that Night.) N2 - vitritaime (at the time I figured my lack of being dead made it less likely she was mafia. I guess if she was a Traitor then I wasn't putting myself in any danger.) N3 - Jamis (he seemed p. suspicious to me!) N4 - Squeege (see above. I guess if anybody had turned up Janitored D5 it would have been me.) N5 - Kail (he looked like mafia, js. Well anyway this was why I was kind of reluctant about the lynch, but it kind of had to happen with the way things were going) N6 - monstrman (Meow was still alive) N7 - abstain N8 - Worthy Protoplasm (apparently nobody else targeted me last Night...hm.) N9 - if I'm right and we lynch the right person, there won't be a N9
well if I've forgotten to address anything then just remind me etc
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Post by monstrman on May 19, 2012 12:34:00 GMT -6
Yep I'm totally the SK with my kills that are nowhere to be found. Isn't it funny how waehofen was ABSOLUTELY sure I wasn't mafia before, but now is saying I was recruited EVEN THOUGH we already lynched the traitor. No wae, your magnet claim is false because you are mafia.
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Post by monstrman on May 19, 2012 12:35:00 GMT -6
I mean really, a serial killer that can't kill anyone until four people die without him killing them? Yeah no.
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Post by blrasmu on May 19, 2012 13:49:49 GMT -6
I'm really racking my brain, here. The prospects of independent roles is interesting, but since we have not seen these types of roles yet, either the indies are doing really, really well, or they are non-existent in this game.
I'm still leaning with a lynch of wae later today. Monstr's roles seems to check out, and worthy's can be easily proven. Hopefully my message ends up sending tonight. Wae's roles just seems unproveable.
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Post by waehofen on May 19, 2012 13:57:13 GMT -6
So, what then? The Protectors are entirely meaningless? Your Saboteur claim is apparently only backed up by times that you were on me? It seems like a lot of your game lately has been about setting me up to be lynched. I mean look at quotes like this:
when I've only been mafia in a forum game once or twice (there is another game that still hasn't ended, so I won't reveal whether or not I was really mafia), and as far as I can tell that only ever happened around endgame in one Day in one of those games (TF2 Hats D11). (Not to mention that in order for me to make it to endgame I usually have to start posting less.)
And hey, maybe you really are a roleblocker, meant to target Protectors to prevent them from recruiting friends. But that's just speculation
Also recruited =/= Traitor. There are two dead mafia recruiters, one for each mafia. LMM and Flint claimed that people attempted to recruit them iirc, but that's potentially like 8 attempted recruitments unaccounted for, so yes I consider somebody having been recruited as a legitimate possibility.
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Post by monstrman on May 19, 2012 14:10:55 GMT -6
Well honestly if I were recruited, then that would HAVE to mean that there are two mafiats alive, and yet there is still only one kill. How did that happen?
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Post by monstrman on May 19, 2012 14:11:17 GMT -6
And no, I am not accepting your "SK" theory because that would be the most impossible to win game ever for the SK.
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Post by waehofen on May 19, 2012 15:22:58 GMT -6
What? Since the D8 lynchee was mafia, let's say hypothetically that you were recruited to the Others mafia over N6, then with 4 per side initially you and capcom would have been the only Others mafia left and gg and werdna would have been the only Freighter mafia left, in which case once capcom , gg, and werdna died you'd be the only mafia player left in the game. N7 would have had two kills and N8 one. I don't see the issue.
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Post by monstrman on May 19, 2012 15:24:10 GMT -6
Here let me make it easy for everyone: T As much as I hate to say it, my best guess - my only guess - is that my conviction in monstrman was slightly misplaced. I'm tempted to think that the reason I was so strongly convinced that he was town is because he wasn't mafiaYou said you were SURE I wasn't mafia yesterday, AFTER the recruiters were all dead, and now you're saying that it's likely I was recruited? You're contradicting yourself, and your SK theory, while interesting, if extremely elaborate and would require that I kill all the protectors without night kills. Not to mention, you yourself say "I think the reason why this is a recorded, computerized message is because [The Protectors are] all dead now." If the protectors are all dead, why have I not won? If killing the protectors only allows me night kills, why was there only one kill last night?
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Post by waehofen on May 19, 2012 15:24:32 GMT -6
double post: actually if there was a recruitment over N6 that would explain the lack of a second kill that Night.
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Post by waehofen on May 19, 2012 15:26:54 GMT -6
OK I really don't understand where you're pulling all of these imaginary discrepancies over the number of kills out of. Maybe each mafia started with 5, maybe each started with 4. Well if each started with 5 then there is one guy from each mafia standing, unless somebody from one of the mafias was Janitored early in the game, and if each started with 4 then all the mafia is dead. The only reason there have been 5 Freighter Mafia deaths is because there was a Traitor.
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Post by monstrman on May 19, 2012 15:27:28 GMT -6
15. kirawillwin - Daniel Faraday, Spy/Recruiter, The Freighter Mafia, Killed N5
I can't have been recruited night 6, unless there is STILL one others mafia alive not including me. There is no others recruiter.
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Post by monstrman on May 19, 2012 15:28:18 GMT -6
Simply put: if there are two other's mafia left, then mafia would have won already. It was a nice defense, but no.
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Post by waehofen on May 19, 2012 15:28:41 GMT -6
dead, nonwithstanding the possibility that there was a recruitment*. But I seriously doubt that there is a Serial Killer and a recruited mafiat running around right now, so if there's an SK then he's hopefully the only bad guy left, meaning there would be one kill...
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Post by waehofen on May 19, 2012 15:29:15 GMT -6
wait shit I've been reading redirector as recruiter this whole time
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Post by monstrman on May 19, 2012 15:30:48 GMT -6
AAAAAAAAND scene. Can we vote waehofen off the island now?
/survivor
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