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Post by waehofen on May 8, 2012 17:21:35 GMT -6
Well, there are probably 2 mafia left, and I'm not one of them. If I didn't feel pretty good about monstr I'd accuse him of having the most likely fake role name and claiming an overused fakeclaim, but as I said I do.
I can claim if anyone wants me to, but also CO: you got a message? Like a personalized one that somebody actually wrote to you? fun fun!
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Post by waehofen on May 8, 2012 17:22:49 GMT -6
ps I trust wp the most right now
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Post by Captain Oblivious on May 8, 2012 17:41:50 GMT -6
Personalized message, got it back N2. I told you how it said not to lynch DP. Also if you didn't notice, we've been getting messages at the start of some days but IDK if that might be the same person.
Nice claim btw >_>
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Post by waehofen on May 8, 2012 21:05:57 GMT -6
Oh, alright. I just asked because I got a thing from DP (as part of his Friendly Neighbor role I guess) that wasn't personalized N1 through the mod. I mean it's kind of odd that we'd have that and the message sender and the Day hint-man thing and a one-time message sender through blras. (ps if you want confirmation of what I just said, read the first letter of each line of my first post on Day 2. I'm not sure why you would need that but I've been waiting for that "secret message" to be useful somehow ever since I put it there. So yeah you can go back and read that I guess.)
Oh, and my role? I can use my sexuality as a weapon (iirc I said something about being pretty early in the game) against people and get them to target me with their actions. So yeah I'm the Magnet. When I got my role pm I was really surprised this role didn't go to Desmond (CO, right?) given some of the stuff he does in the show, but whatever. I don't want to reveal all of my targets yet in case they can be used to catch someone in the act of fakeclaiming or something but yeah I generally went for the people I voted for (NPR N1, not MF, because the MF bandwagon was just desperation and that's dumb), or if they were dead my "runner-up" suspicion, because this apparently worked pretty well for Ernie in TF2 Hats. So like N3-4 I probably shouldn't have done anything tbh (oh fun fact my N4 target was Squeege, owned), but the only time I flat-out abstained was N7 because after Kail and Squeege died I had like one more thing I wanted to try (oh but apparently I was blocked N6 so lol whatever), but after the D7 deaths I was pretty much fresh out of ideas. Plus I like endgame and it's my favorite part of mafia so I didn't want to die right before we got to that point.)
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Post by waehofen on May 8, 2012 21:13:03 GMT -6
oops, forgot to address monstr. Well iirc I was alive at the end of Nintendo Mafia, or at least very close to it, and I think I pulled that one off by playing poorly, having a role that nobody cared about until the end, and accusing all the wrong people of being mafia. I've done at least 2.5 of those this game, but I think part of the problem was inactivity, not only making it harder to discern the scum from the good guys, but making me a bit less interested in keeping up. Plus occasional "real life problems" lol
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Post by Captain Oblivious on May 9, 2012 5:47:24 GMT -6
One thing you need to explain: By targeting NPR on N1 you should have been made into a protector, but you came out pretty strongly saying you thought NPR's role wasn't true.
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Post by Captain Oblivious on May 9, 2012 5:51:42 GMT -6
Also I don't understand why somebody who didn't get targeted by DP on N1 would send me a message saying we shouldn't lynch him. :S
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Post by blrasmu on May 9, 2012 11:42:38 GMT -6
Vote: Wernda[/b]
He hasn't shown up today, and he's the one I'm most suspicious of those remaining. Also, I want to put some pressure on so he claims.
It's possible that one of our full time messengers was janitored early on. That's good for us as a messenger fake claim is pretty worthless since the mafia would have a hard time proving it.
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Post by waehofen on May 9, 2012 15:23:09 GMT -6
With regards to NPR, I guess it's possible that either he or I was redirected by capcom/some other role we don't know about yet. My thinking at the time was that even if he was telling the truth, I might have redirected the "Doctor" action but not the "Protector" one, since I've heard that's a thing with these kinds of roles. I have another theory about it now, but it's still relevant to what's going on here in D8, and I don't want to give anybody fakeclaim ideas.
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Post by Captain Oblivious on May 9, 2012 15:48:20 GMT -6
This is endgame or very close to it. Simply stating your intention to vote should be pressure enough...
I probably dropped too many hints, so the mafia's probably figured me out by now, but whatever I'm still gonna hold off claim for another day or so.
Wae, I was thinking about your Magnet role and how likely it would be to trip somebody up. The only way it could catch Monstrman is if he claims to have blocked somebody, but you magneted that person and know you were affected. If you never noticed any such effects, then you can't catch Monstrman. It apparently didn't catch Blrasmu. I can't really figure a way that it could catch me, but if it could it would probably have to be in a very convoluted way. The only people it could really catch are WP and werdna/vit. If you never targeted either of them, then it's not worth holding off claiming actions. I doubt you targeted WP, but Vit I imagine you might have at some point. If you don't claim actions before them and then claim to have never targeted them (say because Vit got results that you can't refute), that will look bad for you. But thinking about that last point some more, it could catch you if you claimed to have magneted Vit, and then Werdna says that that couldn't have happened. Since you and Werdna are both somewhat suspicious to me, I'm not sure if you holding off claiming actions like this really makes a difference, from my perspective at least... I guess if Werdna claims a role that can somehow know whether or not his action reached it's intended target, then you're caught either way, unless you targeted him/her on a night when they abstained (did any nights go by before Werdna replaced Vit?). I think to avoid that "unless" part, you should just claim your actions now. If you decide not to, you'd should keep a compelling reason in mind.
NPR specifically said he had to give up his Doctor protect in order to make somebody a protector. I guess maybe he didn't want people to know he could do both at the same time, but if I were NPR, that wouldn't be the thing I would have chosen to lie about, if I were choosing to lie. I would have just left the whole protector thing out altogether.
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Post by waehofen on May 9, 2012 17:03:24 GMT -6
Well, the only slight issue is, I don't want to make it obvious that, say, "HMM I WON'T TELL YOU GUYS WHOM I TARGETED N5 HEHEHE" if I think I can trip someone up. And I've already revealed what I did three Nights, which is like half of them... And one Night my action didn't go through (well monstr said it didn't and I have no evidence to the contrary), leaving three, and I made some implication of what one of those was, so that's two Nights that I've already narrowed it down to, don't know how much easier you want me to make this for someone who's fakeclaiming Just realize, CO - before you made that post, I had it in my head that you were one of the half that I trusted more. There were two things you could have done to make me think you were scum. One was attempt to counterclaim my role, and you did the other one. Do you actually think there is any chance you're getting away with this? I probably dropped too many hints, so the mafia's probably figured me out by now, but whatever I'm still gonna hold off claim for another day or so. I should be voting you right now. That is the scummiest thing you can say. You are the one who requested a mass claim to begin with. You can't get out of this by soft-claiming that you're a PR because, OK just look at the list of dead PRs! - Doctor (NPR)
- Cop (Meow)
- Flavor Cop (common)
- Vigilante (MF)
just to name the obvious ones. I'm serious. With two protective roles including Doc, two detective roles, the vig, and several support roles including Cheerleader and Nurse already confirmed as dead players, what could possibly be so important that you refuse to claim during LyLo? (Which, since it's probably either 1/1/4 or 1/1/1/3, we are almost definitely in unless we get lucky with crossfire.) You just set off my scumdar pretty hard with that kind of talk. By asking everybody else to claim but assuming you're apparently completely exempt...that looks to me like the most blatantly obvious tell you could make. There are obviously things I can't claim to know until we get more bad guys. As far as I can tell none of the dead Freighter Mafia people other than their Godfather (don't they make these immune to kills sometimes) was an Armor, a Doctor, or a Redirector, even though those roles are all in the list of dead Others Mafia guys (not too sure what Freighter Abductor, Freighter Captor, Others Surveillance, or Others Infiltrator mean though). Right now that fact is all I can offer to explain why there was only one kill N6. Plus both mafias could well have targeted the Tracker for fear of being revenged by Doc if they went for common, who knows. The only reason I'm making this point is because I don't want monstr to claim that because he targeted such-and-such a person on this Night, that logically eliminates them from being mafia, or proves someone else is. Then, for someone to slip all the way off the radar off one piece of evidence. Maybe someone decided to take up the recruitment offer, and one of the mafias still has two people in it (although if this is true we're probably screwed anyway). Unless somebody can get something really good, we're at a stage in the game where there is no magic bullet, and I don't know why CO is suddenly working off the assumption that he is 100% town, even though at least one of the dead people felt differently and personally my confidence in him started to drop around midgame. tl;dr: If we're claiming, everyone is claiming. We need the best evidence we can get considering it's endgame and two people were Janitored earlygame and we have no idea what the last (hopefully two) mafia roles are. I still trust WP and monstr (despite his claim being apparently the favorite fakeclaim of lazy scum, I think he's telling the truth about it) though, leaving CO, blras, and werdna on my suspicions list. One is mostly inactive, one has claimed, and the other one pulls crap like asking everyone except him to massclaim.
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Post by Captain Oblivious on May 9, 2012 17:22:32 GMT -6
*sigh*
I'm a Time Mage.
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Post by Captain Oblivious on May 9, 2012 17:26:22 GMT -6
It's kind of a rare role so I'll explain: All actions targeting my target are delay until the next night. There's a 20% chance of delaying my targets action as well.
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Post by Captain Oblivious on May 9, 2012 17:30:45 GMT -6
One of my actions: N1 - Darth Pokey. I believe MF probably targeted DP for a vig kill on N1 but was protected by Doc on N2. Wave targeted DP on N1 but got no result, despite him apparently targeting you (though Wave did have a 15% fail rate).
I'll tell you the rest tomorrow but take a guess how I knew I was blocked.
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Post by Erniewan on May 10, 2012 23:38:02 GMT -6
Vote Count:Voted | # | Voters | werdna | 1 | blrasmu |
No vote: werdna0418, CaptainOblivious, waehofen, Worthy Protoplasm, monstrman With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Day 8 ends on Saturday, May 12th @ 11 pm (CST).
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Post by Captain Oblivious on May 11, 2012 18:17:12 GMT -6
:/
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Post by Captain Oblivious on May 12, 2012 6:17:41 GMT -6
Day ends today, I'm leaving soon so I'm gonna miss the rest of it.
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Post by Captain Oblivious on May 12, 2012 6:39:42 GMT -6
I have no choice but to Vote: Werdna.
I don't really wanna post actions (WP, you promised...) if nobody else is gonna post about anything, but I gotta go so...
Actions:
N1: Darth Pokey N2: Monstrman N3: Monstrman N4: Doc N5: Common Yoshi N6: Common Yoshi N7: Common Yoshi
Common wouldn't be dead if I hadn't been blocked. His kill could have originated anywhere in the last three nights so that there were two kills last night doesn't necessarily mean we still have two killers left.
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Post by Captain Oblivious on May 12, 2012 6:47:24 GMT -6
Ugh
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Post by Worthy Protoplasm on May 12, 2012 11:34:00 GMT -6
Oh, man, sorry. I meant to post my actions but I was pretty busy the past two days and I wasn't able to post. I'm going to go ahead and claim. I'm the Watcher. I can watch someone to see one person that targets them. N1: Watched Miracle Fassad. Saw DrShlub target him. N2: Watched Kat. Saw monstrman target her. N3: Watched common. Saw Doc target him. N4: Watched common. Saw CP [replaced by Kail] target him. (incidentally, this is why I didn't really buy common's evidence, since Kail targeted him and nothing negative happened) N5: Watched common. Didn't see anything. (presumably because you delayed it, co) N6: Watched common. Saw Doc target him. (presumably this is a N5 action) N7: Watched common. Didn't see anything. (This one's weird, since I really should have seen either Doc targeting him or the mafia targeting him. A ninja, maybe?) Also, CO, doesn't your ability only delay actions by a day? Because I saw Doc on N6 and if you can keep extending the block that shouldn't have happened. I'm most suspicious of werdna, still, but I'm growing more suspicious of wae as time goes on. I'd be willing to bet that if it isn't werdna it's wae. Vote: werdna
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Post by monstrman on May 12, 2012 11:37:46 GMT -6
okay I guess... we can vote werdna... he's never gonna say anything anyway.
vote:werdna[/color] Also just to say that werdna being mafia doesn't necessarily make wae not mafia. I'm not sure I buy the magnet claim.
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Post by waehofen on May 12, 2012 11:51:33 GMT -6
OK I'm awake now!
Vote: rofl guess not
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Post by Erniewan on May 12, 2012 12:05:22 GMT -6
Vote Count:Voted | # | Voters | werdna | 4 | blrasmu, Captain Oblivious, Worthy Protoplasm, monstrman |
No vote: werdna0418, waehofen With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.The survivors were dwindling in numbers, but they still had barely enough to make a stand against the mafia. Each and every person was forced to reveal personal information about their identities and alibis for the previous nights. But one man stood quiet the whole time, bringing the attention of the inquirers upon him. It seemed he no longer had any care in the world. The remaining people banded together and grabbed the man, who offered no resistance. They walked him over to a nearby cliff, tied him up, and pushed him over the edge. He crashed into the ocean water below, and slowly sank into the depths without a fight. His time to die was now, and he smiled knowing that his son was safe on the mainland. werdna0418 was Michael Dawson, Wooden Armor/Traitor, The Freighter MafiaIt is now Night 8. Please PM me your night actions at this time. If you wish to abstain, PM me that too. The Night ends in 3 days on Tuesday, May 15th @ 6 pm (CST). Sooner would be nice though, so we can start the Day early.
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