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Post by XX Stone on Oct 1, 2011 9:59:51 GMT -6
Sorry for my inactivity, I'm extremely busy. I would request to be replaced but that doesn't seem possible for DP at this point.
What was the cult situation? Has anybody else come out to say that they were converted?
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waehofen
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Post by waehofen on Oct 1, 2011 10:32:19 GMT -6
Nobody has come out so far saying they were converted over N2.
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Post by kpio on Oct 1, 2011 13:32:48 GMT -6
Is it even possible for XX stone to actually reveal who the cult leader is?
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Post by waehofen on Oct 1, 2011 15:02:58 GMT -6
well he did say I can't communicate with the other cultists, there's nothing like that. and he kept saying how he wanted to get the cult leader lynched, so I doubt he knows who it is or else he would have done that D2 Unless, of course, it turns out XX Stone is actually the cult leader and just bluffing. As far as I know it's still possible that the real cult condition, if in fact there is a cult, involves them all losing if the leader dies, in which nobody would want to speak up for obvious reasons. At this point I believe what XX Stone is saying but I still think it's worth mentioning.
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Post by blrasmu on Oct 1, 2011 17:57:14 GMT -6
If the cult leader is smart, he would have converted someone who's inactive. That's my reasoning why no one has claimed at this point.
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Post by Worthy Protoplasm on Oct 1, 2011 18:18:15 GMT -6
Yeah, my inactivity is partly the Internet being out most of Thursday and partly my laziness. >.>
The thing about today is that last night is just kind of weird. It's pretty rare to see two suspicious people die overnight and no one else die. Two leads dying doesn't really lead to good discussion.
I'm kind of suspicious of Flint because he was talking about DP's phrases linking to vig kills, which seemed weird because he claimed limited vig and shouldn't have been killing last night. I guess he might have been thinking of multiple vigs, but it just struck me as a bit weird. (as a side note, my stance on DP's phrases is that they're just flavor.)
Speaking of Flint, if you guys think we have too many inactives, we have Flint's claimed kill to throw at them tonight, if you don't want to use the lynch on them.
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Post by capcommaster on Oct 1, 2011 18:37:42 GMT -6
Sorry of not adding to the discussion in the last couple of days. Things got a bit busy here. Anyway on to Ernies question. Im actually not sure what to think anymore. Right now im thinking of these options regarding Flint, N1, and N2.
Option 1: Flint was telling the truth about his role and there actually is another vig or SK. I really dont think there is another vig in this game. It feels highly unlikely but we really dont know at this point. If Flint killed spycrab then BlurBlur or Waves kill may have been another vig or a SK. this brings me to option 2.
Option 2: Flint may just be a possible Serial Killer and hes just lieing about the vig claim to throw suspicion off him. Im a bit iffy on this one but i really dont think there was a second vig. Flints claim was a kill every other night. But last night there was a second kill. So im pretty much leaning on Option 2 right now.
Option 3: A item killed one of them. I highly doubt it though. WP hasnt revealed his item so this was just a thought.
Idk what do you guys think.
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Post by XX Stone on Oct 1, 2011 21:58:59 GMT -6
If I was cult leader, I would have converted someone else the first time to see how the town would react to it, then proclaim myself as converted later. I wouldn't make myself the guinea pig.
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Post by monstrman on Oct 1, 2011 22:44:17 GMT -6
I don't really see the purpose of us speculating as to who the cult leader is anyway so can we just not? I mean, at the end of the day it's all simply going to be speculation anyway, plus then if the mafia figures out who the cult leader is it gives them a greater chance of hitting the other more important and powerful townie roles. After all, they can kill the cult leader at any time, but if they don't their chance of hitting the doctor/detective/other important role just increased significantly. It falls into the same category as speculating who the power roles are, because you might just be right. Besides, even if you disagree with me about the whole "speculating about the cult leader means the mafia won't kill them and instead shoot someone else" it's not going to change the fact that at the end of the day, this speculation won't get us any closer to hitting mafiats. That being said, I say we follow leads and vote people we find suspicious so I guess now starts the questioning time of things and stuff. CP, why are you suspicious of GG? XXStone, are you suspicious of anyone? Waehofen... you've done a lot of speculation on a lot of flavor related things, but (at least for today) I don't see any suspicions at all. Why not? Capcom... what makes you think that a person leaving a vote on someone they find suspicious makes them suspicious? Just trying to find your reasoning here. Honestly... at this point I have to disagree Dr.Shlub. Misquoting and quoting out of context (e.g.) to make someone look scummy is something that just doesn't sit right with me at all. I wouldn't say putting words in people's mouths is necessarily scummy, but that's essentially what happens when you do something like that. It can often result in mislynches too... The fact remains that you did not quote out of context (or so I assume I'm being really lazy about this cause I feel like it) but I don't think Kpio's action was too extreme considering the situation. Why are most people just coming on to say "I'm not gonna be here"? C'mon >_> Kat, you did an AWFUL lot of defending capcom earlier today, and I get it, but where are your suspicions? Granted, mine have more or less evaporated into small little inklings of very weak suspicion, so I assume that's what happened with you as well, but that doesn't mean you can't still try to scumhunt. I mean, look at me now Other stuff here. WHERE DID SOAPRMAN GO? He was here, and now he's not. I dun like dat. More other stuff here. Meow usually has stuff to say, at least sometimes. But today, he's said nothing at all. Any input? Yea or nay? That's it for now and stuff. Also stuff. Stuff.
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Post by monstrman on Oct 1, 2011 22:46:10 GMT -6
Darn it I forgot things.
Things.
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Post by monstrman on Oct 1, 2011 23:16:43 GMT -6
excuse me, instead of (e.g.) I meant to put (etc)
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The Game Guy
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Post by The Game Guy on Oct 1, 2011 23:32:42 GMT -6
Pretty sure meows trying to get a replacement...
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Post by monstrman on Oct 1, 2011 23:38:35 GMT -6
Well that answers question one...
Now for the other... however many I asked (too lazy to scroll up)
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Post by capcommaster on Oct 2, 2011 0:04:41 GMT -6
Well at first I looked back at his posts in Day 2 and thought they were just a bit odd. Though i do have to agree Flints were alot more scummier. After wave got killed this day i figured Fobby had something to do with it. Especially after what he had said after wave had claimed regarding not at the moment redacting his vote. I do understand that wave was suspicious. But thats how wave is.
I hate that this game is semi inactive. I think if theres going to be no more discussion for possible scum targets then im going to have to reread the past days and see if i get anything that wasnt noticeable.
As of now though i guess i will drop the vote since its not going anywhere. i dont even know where i went with the 3 options i had regarding Flint.
Unvote
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Post by monstrman on Oct 2, 2011 0:12:00 GMT -6
Wow everyone is really unsure of their suspicions this game...
odd...
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Post by Captain Planet on Oct 2, 2011 1:15:28 GMT -6
Cool hey whats up guys. Looks like I can throw myself full-force into this game now. I seem to have cursed myself yesterday and this is now my only living mafia game.
Let's see who's going down today...
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Post by DrShlub on Oct 2, 2011 3:59:02 GMT -6
Honestly... at this point I have to disagree Dr.Shlub. Misquoting and quoting out of context (e.g.) to make someone look scummy is something that just doesn't sit right with me at all. I wouldn't say putting words in people's mouths is necessarily scummy, but that's essentially what happens when you do something like that. It can often result in mislynches too... The fact remains that you did not quote out of context (or so I assume I'm being really lazy about this cause I feel like it) but I don't think Kpio's action was too extreme considering the situation. Aye, in a situation where I was accusing someone with out of context quotes it would not be an extreme reaction. But I accused no one, and my quotes were no more out of context than their respective accusers, because I went and grabbed the quotes from their posts. Kat asked me to differentiate why Flint's 'slip ups' were of a greater magnitude than Fobby's, and I did so through comparison of what people proclaimed to be their 'slip ups'. From my point of view neither of these arguments were very compelling, but there was a clear difference between the severity of these 'slip ups' which anyone could see if they were right next to each other.
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Post by monstrman on Oct 2, 2011 5:13:13 GMT -6
Fair point... And it's much stronger than any of the leads I have currently... I mean we can't possibly believe all the active townies are simply that...
vote: kpio
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Post by monstrman on Oct 2, 2011 5:13:53 GMT -6
it can't possibly be that*
I have no idea where my grammar went in that sentence. Out the window I assume.
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Post by robbiecon on Oct 2, 2011 5:47:07 GMT -6
As for me, I've pretty much not had net for the past two weeks. I got one of these dongles now, so hopefully that'll do the trick. I can't help agreeing with Erniewan that Captain Planet is less useful than usual, and that almost immediately after being pointed out he comes out with posts.
Vote: Captain Planet, just a little bit of pressure, and something to start off with. No point just saying "I think Player X is mafia", without actually putting your money where your mouth is.
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Post by Soaprman on Oct 2, 2011 10:21:55 GMT -6
WHERE DID SOAPRMAN GO? He was here, and now he's not. I dun like dat. I'm here. I'm lurking until I feel I have something to contribute.
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Post by Captain Planet on Oct 2, 2011 11:22:06 GMT -6
Where is Miracle Fassad. Where is he. I have slurry of questions for this young man and I demand them be answered.
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Post by Captain Planet on Oct 2, 2011 11:48:04 GMT -6
Going to just, throw this out there. Fassad has a very nasty habit of disappearing when he's mafia. It's a really bad basis but it's a start.
If you could just come on in and answer some key questions I have for you that'd be fantastic!
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Post by waehofen on Oct 2, 2011 12:22:17 GMT -6
Well I don't really have a lot of new suspicions other than Flint because we haven't really learned anything other than that somebody other than the mafia killed last Night. So if you want I can go over my suspicion list and see what changed: My suspicion list basically reads Flint (always godfather), vit (hates cats - also saying she hadn't read the thread, that my posts were large, something about that sounded off), kat (pretty much all of page 1 or 2, with the random "let's be srs nao no let's be weird nao etc," then apparently disappearing), Ernie (something about the way that he was just sort of agreeing with wave - I haven't seen him play much, but I was expecting a stronger stance), tgg (because of this post and the next one too - "what exactly makes me suspicious" sounds like a mafiat asking for tips on how to blend in better, although it's only a small wording difference from "how am I suspicious at all"), probably at least one of kpio and XX Stone (looking at their encounter) oh and blrasmu, I still think criticizing someone for activity is counterproductive, even if it is D1. Explain how the two parts of this post say anything but opposites Flint: well now I think he might be SK or Mafia, but in any case even if we do lynch flint on a legitimate basis my official reason is that he is always godfather vit: still as suspicious as I was before, but I doubt I could get a lynch off "she seems a little scummy and btw she hates cats" kat: less inclined to believe she is mafia but I'm not sure because I don't know how she would play if she were mafia Ernie: pretty much neutral now, so that's changed. But at one point XX Stone was like "well I don't like this 'we all trust Ernie' thing going on" and maybe that says something about one of the two. GG: once again we haven't learned anything and my feelings haven't changed at all kpio/XX Stone: uhh yeah I'm not sure I trust XX Stone not to be the cult leader or kpio not to be mafia. I put them together on D1 because XX Stone was all like "that kpio knows too much" but I'm seeing less of that now. blrasmu: I think he posted three times Today and voted capcom yet again, but (stop me if I sound like a broken record) my feelings haven't changed because I don't know anything I didn't know before So as far as people I'm starting to wonder about now: LMM: he's posted twice and one of them was Only posting because I'm committed to remaining active. No observations yet other than agreement with Erniewan's most recent post. which doesn't even really count. CP: eh, I guess he is partly to blame for the inactivity, but so is my Four Swords binge MF: wow, wae2lurk Yeah that's all I can think of right now
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Post by sonicblast190 on Oct 2, 2011 13:27:52 GMT -6
WHERE DID SOAPRMAN GO? He was here, and now he's not. I dun like dat. I'm here. I'm lurking until I feel I have something to contribute. :V That's not too helpful, bro. You might as well be nintendude. Anyways, to answer your question, monstr. I said I'd leave on Wed/Thurs because I'm having surgery then.
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Post by spycrab on Oct 2, 2011 13:44:08 GMT -6
You might as well be nintendude. woah dude, no need to be so harsh, jeez. what a horrible thing to say to someone.
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Post by vitritaime on Oct 2, 2011 15:37:36 GMT -6
Okay so that explains CP's inactivity. I guessssss. But I was also gonna say something about MF. I know I saw him on here the other day after this was up and he didn't say anything, and he still hasn't. He, along with some other people, needs to get in here and talk because jesus. Kat has disappeared again but I think she said something about school. I feel like all my suspicions are so underdeveloped and getting thrown off by this inactivity so I dunno. But If the cult leader is smart, he would have converted someone who's inactive. That's my reasoning why no one has claimed at this point. this really stuck out to me for some reason. Hmmm. I'm having a hard time forming my thoughts on this one but I really got the feeling from this that he is the cult leader. It just rubbed me the wrong way I don't know how to explain it. UGH. okay this is stupid the day ends tomorrow I'm gonna do a read through of today and yesterday [since I never got around to it] and come back with a vote.
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Post by vitritaime on Oct 2, 2011 16:30:59 GMT -6
okay first questions:
Are we going to try to agree on someone for Flint to target tonight in an attempt to prove himself or is that totally pointless?
CP, did you ever answer if you were still suspicious of GG/why?
weak suspicions: Kat's nitpicking about CP's word choice still seems really weird to me but I need to see more from her before I can develop anything more.
I'm still unsure about monstrman but his recent posts seem more town than what was going on yesterday but I'm not certain I get his vote on kpio? Can you explain that one to me?
blrasmu's post just got to me guys and I don't know what it was but I'm gonna be watching him for a little bit to get a better feel.
People I would be willing to vote today: GG: of the three people who voted blueblur his seemed to be the most bandwagoning. Ernie started it, and capcom justified his vote by saying he had personally reminded blueblur to post and him not posting seemed like lurking.
soaprman: I don't know if it's just because he replaced or what? but he came in a voted Doc who had already claimed and after it had pretty much already been decided that we we're going to lynch him. I think he said he just voted to see what would happen? Yea okay that's really scummy there bud.
who I am voting: vote: Miracle Fassad he made one* post yesterday and in that post he said he was suspicious of wave and spycrab [who was dead] but said those were mostly gut feelings and then voted Doc saying he contributed nothing more than speculation which, as CP pointed out yesterday, was all most of us had done at that point. It was like he just picked two people from the list and said hey I'm suspicious of these guys even though one of them is dead and then put a vote down on doc without even mentioning the main point which was Doc's weird freudian slip thing. That on top of his being on after this day was up and not posting and his tendency to disappear when he's mafia, I see no better person to go after at this point. [*he DID make another post yesterday but that was to call himself brilliant for being suspicious of a dead guy.]
Now you all need to get in here and post suspicions + a vote because three days in a row without a lynch is unacceptable. UNACCEPTABLE.
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Post by DrShlub on Oct 2, 2011 16:49:46 GMT -6
The question of who Flint should kill is a quandary. Personally I think that, to be safe, he should kill no one, in case the mafia have a redirector, and it reduces the risk of us wasting time arguing about who to kill, not reaching a definite result, and allowing Flint free rein over a justified killing of an innocent (Assuming in this instance he is actually a mafiat double killer or a serial killer or something). Thus, I also propose that if there two deaths tomorrow we should lynch Flint.
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Post by Captain Planet on Oct 2, 2011 17:17:12 GMT -6
Yeah Fassad is good at lurking when he's mafia. Feel pretty good about this.
Vote: Miracle Fassad
GG just rubs the wrong way, and he's rubbing all over and furiously...
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