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Post by Meow on Jun 15, 2011 22:29:45 GMT -6
Crav, first off I just want to say thank you for sparking discussion. It will really help us out.
Now, my top five most trusted living players:
1) Puppyduck (Confirmed cop, pretty obvious one here) 2) Crav (Hasn't hidden anything from us) 3) Jamis (Confirmed role) 4) NPR (Also a confirmed role, but I'm still not quite sure about him. Guess I must just be off though, since he is confirmed and all)
And unfortunately I don't trust anyone else enough to put them on my list. The top of my suspicion list right now is Erniewan, because his posts have been unhelpful for quite a while. It also looked like he was asking Crav to waste one of his posts confirming what this item did.
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Post by Captain Oblivious on Jun 16, 2011 0:07:25 GMT -6
Hey guys. First I have to apologize for my somewhat extended absence. I have no excuse -- I was just doing other things. Anyway, I'm back now. A lot of things have happened since I last posted, and I intend to comment on most of the things that are still relevant when I get a chance to try and wrap my brain around them. The main thing I want to state right now is my intention of seeing somebody through to a lynch today. Follow the cop isn't working, and now we've gone too many days without a lynch. So what I want from the people who want to play this game is this: who are you suspicious of, and why. It's what we should always be doing anyway.
NPR/Puppy: I was sent Purple Potions on both Day 1 and Night 1. The one I received on Day 1 cured my poison, and I came forward with this on Day 1, soon after it happened. If this potion wasn't from you, NPR, then I can't really explain the source. My best guess is that it was possible to get one from caves, perhaps to balance with the chance you could get poisoned as well?
The second Purple Potion was sent to me, from you, on Night 1 -- I will confirm that I was indeed sent an additional Purple Potion on this night. I decided it was in our best interest to keep it a secret. After Monstrman's death-by-poison before he could even come forward and say that he had been poisoned, I decided I couldn't risk the possibility that Puppyduck could potentially be exposed to the poison, so I sent it to him. I figured he might have already been sent one, but it was better to be safe than sorry.
NPR, you're the only thing standing between the poisoner our power roles, which I think will likely make you a target. I'd recommend pumping this game full of Purple Potions at maximum capacity, so we're not left defenseless against the poisoner should you happen to die.
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Post by NPR on Jun 16, 2011 0:12:33 GMT -6
Something else that needs to happen: POST IF YOU WERE POISONED! I cant help you unless you tell me. Puppyduck, 2 players were killed by poison. I will protect you from poison. I need that protective device, otherwise, Im history tonight. Doctor, stay on puppyduck no matter what. DON'T try playing the odds and try and block the mafia's kill. Puppyduck, do you still have another potion? If not, Ill send you one right now.
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Post by Puppyduck on Jun 16, 2011 0:40:39 GMT -6
Wait, what? You can protect me from poison and generate more potions?
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Post by NPR on Jun 16, 2011 0:43:06 GMT -6
yeah, as long as you have a potion, you're fine. And I make potions every night
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Post by Puppyduck on Jun 16, 2011 0:44:07 GMT -6
Yes, and if I send you the potion i won't be safe anymore.
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Post by NPR on Jun 16, 2011 0:44:54 GMT -6
Why would you send me the potion? I make them every night, so I wont be short of potions
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Post by Puppyduck on Jun 16, 2011 1:06:43 GMT -6
You keep asking me to send the potion.
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Post by NPR on Jun 16, 2011 1:24:34 GMT -6
Oh, I thought you had a different protection device.
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Post by Erniewan on Jun 16, 2011 8:25:27 GMT -6
Crav, first off I just want to say thank you for sparking discussion. It will really help us out. Now, my top five most trusted living players: 1) Puppyduck (Confirmed cop, pretty obvious one here) 2) Crav (Hasn't hidden anything from us) 3) Jamis (Confirmed role) 4) NPR (Also a confirmed role, but I'm still not quite sure about him. Guess I must just be off though, since he is confirmed and all) And unfortunately I don't trust anyone else enough to put them on my list. The top of my suspicion list right now is Erniewan, because his posts have been unhelpful for quite a while. It also looked like he was asking Crav to waste one of his posts confirming what this item did. Hmm, so a few things to say about this. So Crav asked you to put five people you trust and you could only come up with 4, and only the confirmed roles? I think this says a) you're not following the game enough to think of a fifth, and/or b) you are mafia and trying to lessen the amount of useful input you can (by either pushing trust on a townie or putting a lead on a mafiat). You've also been more inactive than in other games (I have too, but I'm on vacation in Chicago right now, so I have an excuse, LMM is here too actually). I know it's the whole "usually active but not active now = suspicious" approach, but sometimes it is the right track. And did you not read my claim? I have a fairly confirmed role, and if it's not confirmed enough for you, you could have asked me for more details of my role or to use my item, instead of what seems like pulling reasons from nowhere (it slipped my mind that Crav was blocked, and it's not like he couldn't do it in his next post). It seems to me like you didn't even read that claim... As for the 5 I'm suspicious of at the moment: 1) Meow (for the above stated reasons) 2) Miracle Fassad (he's obviously here as he is handling his game) 3) Darthpokey (another lurker) 4) blrasmu (he's been under suspicion the whole game, and the post trying to lead us away from inactives...) 5) RN (has he even posted this Day, even though he's been on?) Oh, and Unvote: NPR. I don't know how you could misread that, PD. ಠ_ಠ Alright, in interest of adding myself to the confirm list and giving the town more info, I'll share more about my role. I am the "Cheater", which means I learn one role that's in the game each night (just the role name, no character name, no alignment). It's a pretty slow way to gain info... but I can now confirm that there is a "Rolecop" in the game. If you want me to share the rest of my results, I can, but I don't want to give the mafia any more info than they need.
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Post by NPR on Jun 16, 2011 9:22:03 GMT -6
Did you learn of any mafia roles Ernie? If not, I suggest you keep the results to yourself for now.
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Post by NPR on Jun 16, 2011 9:30:54 GMT -6
OK, player list time!
1.Puppyduck 2.Miracle Fassad 3.Meow 4.Crav 5.Jamis 6.NPR 7.Erniewan 8.blrasmu 9.captainoblivious 10.commonyoshi 11.impereld 12.RN (Rockin'Ness) 13.pyroguy42 14.Captain Planet 15.Darthpokey
Blue players are confirmed, which leaves 10 unconfirmed. We started with 20, so that should leave us with about 5 mafia. So we have a 50/50 shot of getting a mafiat if we do a blind lynch. With that:
Vote: Blrasmu
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Post by Captain Planet on Jun 16, 2011 10:39:27 GMT -6
I remember Blrasmu was suspicious but I can't remember what exactly he was suspicious for. Can somebody shoot a quick reminder into my brain?
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Post by blrasmu on Jun 16, 2011 11:22:48 GMT -6
Because I was butting heads with Puppyduck on day one, and when he found a traitor on day two, I was one of the first few to vote for him. It does come off as scummy, but, hey, I trust detections. Probably too much.
Ernie, what do you mean that my post was leading you away from inactives? All I remember saying that I don't like voting for them, but I would if we need a lynch.
And NPR, why is your RNG pointing at me?
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Post by Darthpokey on Jun 16, 2011 16:47:27 GMT -6
Vote: MiracleFassad
I already explained why I'm voting for him the previous day. Fassad has been on the site every day since my post and hasn't said a word. Also inactives are terrible and can ruin games, especially later in the game when we need all the votes we can get.
Speaking of voting, all of you need to start voting. The game has been going on for 5 days now so I'm sure all of you have someone you're suspicious of. If we continue to abstain we're pretty much guaranteed to lose.
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Post by XX Stone on Jun 16, 2011 19:43:53 GMT -6
Pyroguy42 has been replaced by robbiecon.
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Post by Puppyduck on Jun 17, 2011 7:51:20 GMT -6
How exactly is Erniewan confirmed? The only role he's said he's come up with is one that has already been claimed.
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Post by Erniewan on Jun 17, 2011 9:05:03 GMT -6
How exactly is Erniewan confirmed? The only role he's said he's come up with is one that has already been claimed. Huh? My role hasn't been claimed yet.
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Post by Meow on Jun 17, 2011 9:32:12 GMT -6
The only thing you've done to back up your claim, Erniewan, is to state Puppyduck's role. As we all know who he is, that is in no way a confirmation of your claim. In fact, that sounds like a darn good fake claim. Obviously people aren't going to come forth every time you come up with a fake role, so you can basically just make it up as you go along, with a few obvious ones thrown in. You can even have your mafia buddies coming up and saying "Oh yes, that's me! I'm the _____, that's confirmed both me and Erniewan!" So Crav asked you to put five people you trust and you could only come up with 4, and only the confirmed roles? I think this says a) you're not following the game enough to think of a fifth, and/or b) you are mafia and trying to lessen the amount of useful input you can (by either pushing trust on a townie or putting a lead on a mafiat). Or, of course, there's option c) No one has done anything to make me trust them yet. Yeah, except that's the same with you, and pretty much everyone else in the game. Let's face it, people have just been less active in this game than in other games. You haven't been in Chicago for the entire duration of the game, so there's no point using that as an excuse. Sorry, what are you even on about? I haven't read your claim, no. I haven't seen it anywhere except at the bottom of your post there. Are you sure you even posted it? I'm not one to throw around votes, but right now Erniewan is just not looking like a townie to me. I've never really seen him go into OMGUS mode, and it's sending up a red flag. Vote: Erniewan
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Post by RN (Rockin'Ness) on Jun 17, 2011 10:36:11 GMT -6
I hate to bandwagon, but yeah MiracleFassad is inactive. Even if he turns out to be a townie, who cares? He's inactive~
Vote: MiracleFassad If throughout this day I find someone quite suspicious chances are I'll switch my vote, but yeah, inactives...
I myself should probably post a little more, but I've been caught in school with exams on the way and other things like final projects.
Right now I probably trust Puppyduck, Jamis, NPR and Captain Planet the most. I'm a tad suspicious of imperald and blrasmu.
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Post by Captain Planet on Jun 17, 2011 11:58:43 GMT -6
The thing with Miracle Fassad isn't that he's inactive. It's that he's lurking, and it's quite a hefty lurking at that. It's one thing to just be missing from the site, but it's another to be actively reading the days and deciding to not add any input.
Blrasmu is also on my suspicions list, and welcome back robbie.
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Post by Erniewan on Jun 17, 2011 19:18:49 GMT -6
Meow, no one's suspicious of me except you. You know why? Because they actually bothered to read my claim. Please stop pushing accusations without all the facts.
I may not be totally confirmed, but I AM monstrman's Mason, I have a similar character to his, I have an additional power (I would reveal all the other roles I found out about, but no one else has pushed for them because it would help the mafia, of course) and I have an item that would let me see who targets me, I can use that if you guys want me to. That's really as much as I can do to confirm myself.
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Post by NPR on Jun 17, 2011 19:44:45 GMT -6
Give that item to puppyduck. That way he will know who the doctor is and will save himself a detect.
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Post by Captain Planet on Jun 17, 2011 19:56:54 GMT -6
Is the item passive? Because if not then PD would have to sacrifice a night action to use it.
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Post by NPR on Jun 17, 2011 19:59:29 GMT -6
good point CP. Erniewan, why dont you ask XX Stone about that?
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Post by Erniewan on Jun 17, 2011 20:41:50 GMT -6
Yeah, I'll just send it to PD. I'm asking XX Stone if it is passive though, but I doubt it is, since it's one-shot ability. He can decide whether to spend a night using it or not.
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Post by robbiecon on Jun 18, 2011 7:16:54 GMT -6
impereld yesterday claimed to have a poisoning object, as well as his roleblocking item. Now we know the roleblocking item was stolen from him.
Now in accordance with this question:
11. impereld: didn't you say you had another item that you were planning on using last night. Can you share what it did?
I wonder do you have another item, or was it the poison you were talking about.
Anyway, I was killed with poison, so it doesn't look good for you Senor impereld.
Vote: impereld
It could be easily WIFOM, ie you state something, and then when someone is killed, you can easily say "Oh, I'm clearly being set up". Hiding in plain sight basically.
Also, you haven't posted today, perhaps trying to be forgotten about?
I will also answer Crav's question to pyroguy, seeing as I'm him now:
13. pyroguy42: are you all caught up with current game events? If you could investigate one of the players in this game, who whould it be?
Yes, I know what's happening at the moment. And if I could investigate anyone, it would be impereld, or perhaps Miracle Fassad.
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Post by XX Stone on Jun 18, 2011 7:44:44 GMT -6
Vote Count:
- Miracle Fassad (2) - DarthPokey, RN (Rockin'Ness)
- blrasmu () - NPR
- Erniewan (1) - Meow
- impereld (1) - robbiecon
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Post by Erniewan on Jun 18, 2011 8:32:57 GMT -6
XX Stone said that was actually a one-shot ability of mine, not an item. So yeah, I'm gonna have to use it. I know it's not likely the mafia will target me except maybe to kill me, but I could use it to confirm myself or anyone else that wants to target me.
Also, I forgot that impereld had the roleblocking item and poison item. I'm still suspicious of Meow, but he might just be a misled townie. Though you'd think the mafia would have the actually abilities, not the items... hmm.
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Post by robbiecon on Jun 18, 2011 9:10:45 GMT -6
It does seem unlikely that the mafia would have items rather than the abilities themselves, unless XX Stone felt the mafia was overpowered, and felt that a good way to make things more even would be to have it possible to take things from them, or at least some of them.
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