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Post by Erniewan on May 14, 2011 9:07:49 GMT -6
The night is the mafia's time to shine. If the town is getting more done in a night than the mafia, then either the mafia or the host is doing something very wrong, or the town got incredibly lucky. And any townie should be considering the welfare of the entire town over his/her own. This is true, as a whole, but in terms of statistics, I wouldn't doubt that there are at least 5 townies with actions that would have some sort of clout, so with ~5 mafiats, that's a 50/50 chance right there. Not defending Wave really, more the idea, I still think Wave is suspicious (although on the other hand, he did vote Kira before PD outed him as mafia). Guess you could say I'm just mulling over my suspicion at this point.
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Post by monstrman on May 14, 2011 10:58:52 GMT -6
Discussing who we can lynch depends on a lot of factors, but at least we can narrow down the candidates. The factors that decide who we have to add/take away from that list can be discussed tomorrow.
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Wave57
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Post by Wave57 on May 14, 2011 14:41:46 GMT -6
And that's fine.
I'm just thinking that if we don't lynch Kira now, we may forget (yeah, it actually is likely to happen). I mena, we practically have a mafia in our grasp, why aren't we going to vote him off now? We'll have plenty of time to discuss who to vote tomorrow, when it is tomorrow.
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Post by Captain Planet on May 14, 2011 15:48:27 GMT -6
Because every day we have is precious time to the town. Why should we waste the time we're given to finish off somebody who is obviously going to be lynched anyways? I don't think you understand that this is our only time as a unit to communicate our thoughts, theories, and to act together.
Do you honestly believe that we're going to forget to lynch an outed mafiat? I just find it very odd that you are pushing so heavily for this day to end, and rightfully so I'd say.
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Post by Worthy Protoplasm on May 14, 2011 17:06:18 GMT -6
If you guys forget by the last day I will personally come in here and remind you that kira is an outed mafioso. I'm sure pretty much every member of the town remembers kira, since he is brought up roughly every five posts or so. There's really no reason to end the day early unless we're sure we've caught the scum and everyone agrees to do so. In this case, I think we might be able to squeeze a bit more information out of today.
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Post by Captain Planet on May 14, 2011 17:26:13 GMT -6
We're going to milk today for all it's worth. Gonna squeeze every little bit of nectar out and make some sweet, sweet orange juice.
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Post by Puppyduck on May 14, 2011 17:39:55 GMT -6
The night is the mafia's time to shine. If the town is getting more done in a night than the mafia, then either the mafia or the host is doing something very wrong, or the town got incredibly lucky. And any townie should be considering the welfare of the entire town over his/her own. This is true, as a whole, but in terms of statistics, I wouldn't doubt that there are at least 5 townies with actions that would have some sort of clout, so with ~5 mafiats, that's a 50/50 chance right there. Not defending Wave really, more the idea, I still think Wave is suspicious (although on the other hand, he did vote Kira before PD outed him as mafia). Guess you could say I'm just mulling over my suspicion at this point. If the town has enough power roles that they can win by night action then the mafia doesn't have a chance. He may have voted kira before I revealed my detection, but I'm not sure what his reasons were, if any. And since kira is probably a .5 there's no reason wave couldn't be mafia.
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Post by Erniewan on May 14, 2011 23:37:03 GMT -6
I didn't say that the town has enough power roles to win by night actions, just mentioned an educated guess that the town has the same number of power roles as there are mafia, i.e. 5 mafiat power roles are much more calculated and effective than 5 town power roles.
Ah, but yeah, the .5 part slipped my mind when I thought of that, Wave voting before you shouldn't make a difference in that respect.
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Post by Crav on May 15, 2011 2:17:24 GMT -6
Yeeaah... Not cutting our time short is important.
Undoubtably, waiting it out just in case something comes up is probably the smart thing to do.
At the same time, I can see where wave is coming from. Everyone keeps talking about how important it is to make the most of our time, but other than Kira, there's been very little real discussion going on here. Even I get a little impatiant to get to the meat of the game, by which I mean seeing some results and moving forward.
So, is there anything people would actually like to discuss so were're not just sitting around, twittling our thumbs?
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Post by Meow on May 15, 2011 4:25:03 GMT -6
We're going to milk today for all it's worth. Gonna squeeze every little bit of nectar out and make some sweet, sweet orange juice. With nectar? Creating a list of possible lynch candidates is basically like saying to the mafia "We're probably going to lynch one of these guys, so you can go ahead and kill any of the other people in the game."
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Post by monstrman on May 15, 2011 9:48:25 GMT -6
Implying they aren't going to kill someone anyway? At least this gives us an idea of what to talk about tomorrow all you're doing is arguing with me for the sake of proving me wrong. Where's your idea?
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Post by commonyoshi on May 15, 2011 12:36:56 GMT -6
Ok, for the record there seems to be some confusion about kira. If he's a traitor then everyone is still a suspect even if they voted for him Day 1. The mafia dont know who the traitors are. Anyone "forgetting" that is suspicious. *looks at Ernie >_<* Second, Crav and Wave are right. For all the talk about... talking, the only discussion that has gone on since Wave suggested we just end the Day is about how we should continue to talk. We're talking about talking. However, I suppose we now know Captain Planet and Wave cant both be mafia.
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Post by XX Stone on May 15, 2011 15:40:47 GMT -6
Vote Count: - kirawillwin (10) - wave57, Puppyduck, Crav, Worthy Protoplasm, blrasmu, Miracle Fassad, robbiecon, Jamis, pyroguy42, RN
With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch. Day 2 ends in 3 days.
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Post by Erniewan on May 15, 2011 19:36:34 GMT -6
Common: It'd be a lot easier for a townie to forget that a mafiat is a traitor (.5 compared to 1) than a mafiat to forget (they KNOW their partners, differentiating between traitor and themselves is a bigger deal). >_> And talking about talking is still getting us some reads on who sides with whom... and you didn't vote even though you agree with them.
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Post by Puppyduck on May 15, 2011 23:57:44 GMT -6
Ok, for the record there seems to be some confusion about kira. If he's a traitor then everyone is still a suspect even if they voted for him Day 1. I'd say Erniewan and Captain Planet are pretty clear since they waited for clarification before voting.
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Post by monstrman on May 16, 2011 0:18:27 GMT -6
It definitely makes them less suspicious, but it doesn't clear them
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Post by Puppyduck on May 16, 2011 3:00:02 GMT -6
Yeah but the way common phrased his "everyone is suspicious" implied "everyone is equally suspicious" and I just wanted to point out that that was definitely not the case.
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Post by monstrman on May 16, 2011 14:04:49 GMT -6
So this conversation is really going nowhere... at all.
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Post by Captain Planet on May 16, 2011 14:26:01 GMT -6
Crav - 13 monstrman - 13 Puppyduck - 13 Captain Planet - 12 wave57 - 11 Erniewan - 7 commonyoshi - 4 Meow - 4 Miracle Fassad - 4 Worthy Protoplasm - 4 robbiecon - 3 pyroguy42 - 3 kirawillwin - 3 NPR - 3 jamis - 2 blrasmu - 2 RN (Rockin'Ness) - 1 captainoblivious - 1 impereld - 1
Penguinbound hasn't made not one post today. And some people have only posted to vote, probably going to be looking into that group of people.
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Post by monstrman on May 16, 2011 14:32:37 GMT -6
Yeah, I am going to be also. I think those are the people we should be looking to vote tomorrow
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Captain Planet
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Post by Captain Planet on May 16, 2011 14:43:16 GMT -6
hasn't posted once today* Why did I use that kind of sentence structuring?
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Puppyduck
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Post by Puppyduck on May 17, 2011 1:44:24 GMT -6
iirc Penguinbound only made one post yesterday, too.
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Post by XX Stone on May 17, 2011 18:20:40 GMT -6
The day will end tomorrow.
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Post by Crav on May 17, 2011 18:44:14 GMT -6
So... Somebody wanna end the day or...?
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Post by Wave57 on May 17, 2011 19:42:42 GMT -6
*cough* *cough*
Hmm, now maybe you see what I mean by people forgetting to come in the last day?
SOMEONE GET IN HERE!
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Post by Captain Planet on May 17, 2011 20:02:29 GMT -6
Um, Wave. I can honestly say I do not see what you mean by people forgetting to come in on the last day. You are trying way to hard to prove this little point you've made.
In case you haven't noticed the day is still open for it is not tomorrow. Gonna put an asterisk in my notepad here next to your name. "Very suspicious"
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Post by commonyoshi on May 17, 2011 20:03:47 GMT -6
*cough* *cough* Hmm, now maybe you see what I mean by people forgetting to come in the last day? SOMEONE GET IN HERE! lol Vote:kira[/color]
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Post by Erniewan on May 17, 2011 20:05:08 GMT -6
We still have a day, but I'll go ahead and vote, seems like discussion has come to a halt. Hopefully PD is right, and we can look for new suspicions tomorrow.
Vote: Kirawillwin
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Post by Captain Planet on May 17, 2011 20:05:24 GMT -6
"smells like cabbage" is also a note here, you might want to fix that!
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Post by Erniewan on May 17, 2011 20:05:44 GMT -6
Or common beat me to it. Either way, it wasn't like we were gonna forget. >_>
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